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5 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Agree they have the right. They are hypocrites.  Why is what she did do awful but yet so many performers say much worse about Trump. How is saying she looks like fictional character in a movie, racist ? 

The MDLers in the media, including the sports media and talent are major hypocrites.  Does that surprise anyone?

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5 hours ago, OriZ said:

Don't agree with what she said but what does that have to do with a tv show? Lol beyond asinine. Freedom of speech? What freedom of speech? Only if you're a liberal. 

 

Perfect example of hypocrisy: Football players allowed to kneel on field, she's not allowed to tweet off the screen. Yes, yes, I know...they weren't being racist yadda yadda yadda save it you're missing the point. Her personal opinions are her personal opinions, we can agree or not agree but she wasn't shoving them down our throat on prime time. They can stay in the locker room and keep playing, she can keep tweeting and keep acting, what a bunch of snowflakes.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean there isn't public or private consequences to the speech said. Roseanne can and has been as nutty as she'd like for years, but there may be consequences to that speech - she may be fired, and she may find herself hurting friends and coworkers. Hollywood and tv-land has long held to the standards of their actors, it's often written into their contracts they agree to. No one has stopped her from tweeting, she's been back at it all night, considering she stated she would quit... I guess another personality disagreed with her original decision.

 

NFL players have the right to free speech and to protest if they wish. There may be rules enacted around that speech. So far the NFL has decided to do that. They may continue to protest and have their free speech within the locker-room - out of public eye (I'm sure cameras will follow them). It's kind of silly, but whatever. Some owners have decided that their players should be able to do it publically, and will pay any fines.

 

I'd also like to remind that... Roseanne, has not, nor ever has been remotely a 'liberal', nor has she ever been a 'conservative' either. She's way out there whack-a-do land. She's a mentally unstable individual and always has been. Perhaps conservatives and liberals should choose very carefully whom they try to co-opt.

3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Supposedly she was Ambien texting.

According to the manufacturer of Ambien this morning, sleep-racism is not a known side-effect of Ambien.

 

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Agree they have the right. They are hypocrites.  Why is what she did do awful but yet so many performers say much worse about Trump. How is saying she looks like fictional character in a movie, racist ? 

If you can't see what she said (and there was a string of many things not just that) was racist, offensive, wrong, and plain ignorant then you aren't in the 'middle of the road' today.

 

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Great point . What happened to all the MDL that said people should have the right to protest on the job , even if others find it very offensive 

Hmmmm 

And she wasn't even doing it on the job. Now they're afraid of TV Shows...great, wonder what's next? 

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19 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Freedom of speech doesn't mean there isn't public or private consequences to the speech said. Roseanne can and has been as nutty as she'd like for years, but there may be consequences to that speech - she may be fired, and she may find herself hurting friends and coworkers. Hollywood and tv-land has long held to the standards of their actors, it's often written into their contracts they agree to. No one has stopped her from tweeting, she's been back at it all night, considering she stated she would quit... I guess another personality disagreed with her original decision.

 

NFL players have the right to free speech and to protest if they wish. There may be rules enacted around that speech. So far the NFL has decided to do that. They may continue to protest and have their free speech within the locker-room - out of public eye (I'm sure cameras will follow them). It's kind of silly, but whatever. Some owners have decided that their players should be able to do it publically, and will pay any fines.

 

I don't really care if it's a football player or an actor/actress, if they're liberal or conservative or just a nut. People have a right to their personal views, provided that they don't try to shove them down my throat. Tweeting in your personal account? your right and has to be kept completely separate from your job. I didn't see any of these tweets on her show so I'm ok. Likewise, kneeling in the locker room, their right as long as it's kept completely separate from their job. If I see them doing it on screen I'm not ok, they're shoving it down my throat.

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16 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I don't really care if it's a football player or an actor/actress, if they're liberal or conservative or just a nut. People have a right to their personal views, provided that they don't try to shove them down my throat. Tweeting in your personal account? your right and has to be kept completely separate from your job. I didn't see any of these tweets on her show so I'm ok. Likewise, kneeling in the locker room, their right as long as it's kept completely separate from their job. If I see them doing it on screen I'm not ok, they're shoving it down my throat.

Like I said, it's a new world now in the age of social media. Tweeting by a celebrity is seen as akin to shoving it down the throat of the public domain. It gets out, we all hear about it. We're talking about it right now. Free speech doesn't mean there isn't consequences.

 

For all the talk about disrespecting the anthem and the flag... my goodness, does no one remember what she did with that? The screaming, the smug smile, the spit, and the crotch grab? How offended everyone was? But back then, instead of just outrage, there were still consequences, she lost deals and projects, but nothing too major. Now people watch some men silently kneeling, and freak the heck out.

 

A lot of free speech is shoved down our throats though. By people you agree and disagree with. Wanting it to not be shoved down your throat could be seen by some as snowflake-like. Roseanne's behavior is more offensive to me than a person kneeling. But i'm not even demanding she be fired (though it's not surprising to me and its justified), i'm more concerned with the fact they gave her a platform to begin with and feign surprise.. that people have been making money off of her for years and know that she is completely unstable. Like many other celebrities, it usually ends up taking them to bad places.

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Interesting to see the new standard has been set, lets see how this roles froward.

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I'll have to say I did not see her tweets, except for the Valerie Jarrett one. 

 

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Awww...poor liddl' Donnie. Me me me.

 

Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?

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I would inmagine many will be following ABC and seeing if they keep their high standards or if this just MSM hypocrisy.

 

 

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Hahaha.

 

Somehow the Trump White House is turning a racist comment from Roseanne into a call for ABC to apologize to Trump for a long list of grievances, including Keith Olbermann and Joy Behar. “Where was the apology for Kathy Griffin?” asks Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
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41 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Awww...poor liddl' Donnie. Me me me.

 

Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?

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It's always got to be about him, even on Memorial Day he had to make it all about him. Narcissism aplenty.

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12 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

It's always got to be about him, even on Memorial Day he had to make it all about him. Narcissism aplenty.

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4 hours ago, OriZ said:

I don't really care if it's a football player or an actor/actress, if they're liberal or conservative or just a nut. People have a right to their personal views, provided that they don't try to shove them down my throat. Tweeting in your personal account? your right and has to be kept completely separate from your job. I didn't see any of these tweets on her show so I'm ok. Likewise, kneeling in the locker room, their right as long as it's kept completely separate from their job. If I see them doing it on screen I'm not ok, they're shoving it down my throat.

Equating kneeling in a football game to tweeting racist garbage is just intellectually dishonest. 

 

 

 

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