Trump cancels Singapore summit with North Korean leader Kim Jung-Un

[spookyturtle 9,466]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

All I know is that after 16 years of appeasement under the last two Presidents, NK just got bolder and bolder and were launching missiles into sovereign state Territory. After 1 year of " I will not appease you I will destroy you,  No more Missiles and I understand he just destroyed a nuclear facility today 

Go back a little further in history. It’s been going on a lot o get than 16 years. 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

3 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Go back a little further in history. It’s been going on a lot o get than 16 years. 

They think Donnie by acting like a strongman or a bully, means he's done far more to change the circumstances on the Korean Peninsula. He hasn't, North Korea would've had a nuke years ago if it wasn't for the diplomats under the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations.

[Dashinka 24,765]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

They think Donnie by acting like a strongman or a bully, means he's done far more to change the circumstances on the Korean Peninsula. He hasn't, North Korea would've had a nuke years ago if it wasn't for the diplomats under the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations.

Didn’t they actually complete their development of nuclear weapons under Obama?

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4 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I know right. I wish the fringe could put aside their hatred of Trump long enough to admit we are finally moving the peg. 

Where have we moved the peg to? We are even closer to possibly having a meeting in the future? It doesn't happen until it happens.

 

KJU "destroying" the facility has nothing to do with us. 

 

That being said, I am sad the meeting didn't go through. Even with a small chance of a deal, I would have liked to see it happen. 

 

Also gotta say I chuckled a bit at the "letter". You can always tell what Trump has his hand in writing and when he stays away. He definitely influenced this one. 

[Jacque67 7,328]

Breaking: North Korea says it's still willing to sit down with talks at anytime 

 

Tom Nichols

 

Diplomacy 101: when your opponent sends a public, angry letter like you jilted him at the prom, you express regret and say you’re always willing to meet. It makes you look like the more reasonable party. twitter.com/ap/statu…

12 minutes ago

[Jacque67 7,328]

Korean Perjury Trap- one of the most underrated bands of 2018. Giuliani says trump more likely to eventually sit down with KJU than Mueller as at least he won't try to trap him into Korean Perjury. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-lot-of-dial-tones-the-inside-story-of-how-trumps-north-korea-summit-fell-apart/2018/05/24/71bb5ad8-5f6f-11e8-9ee3-49d6d4814c4c_story.html

[Boiler 46,013]

Obviously very disappointing to some to see progress being made after years of nothing.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

Yes that was written by the President of the United States. Almost like a child writing to a pen friend

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[spookyturtle 9,466]

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Didn’t they actually complete their development of nuclear weapons under Obama?

Their first nuclear test was while Bush was President. 

[Dashinka 24,765]

8 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Their first nuclear test was while Bush was President. 

I stand corrected.  Some though seem to think all the nuclear development was done in the past year and a half.

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12 hours ago, Jacque67 said:

Breaking: North Korea says it's still willing to sit down with talks at anytime 

 

Tom Nichols

 

Diplomacy 101: when your opponent sends a public, angry letter like you jilted him at the prom, you express regret and say you’re always willing to meet. It makes you look like the more reasonable party. twitter.com/ap/statu…

12 minutes ago

I feel like KJU took a page out of Trump's playbook. Now the headlines are "Trump cancelled, KJU still willing to meet". Makes him seem reasonable.

 

That being said, he was doing the typical thing that North Korea does in these situations. They make initial overtures towards peace talks and then get increasingly unrealistic with their demands to the point where things break down.

 

12 hours ago, Boiler said:

Obviously very disappointing to some to see progress being made after years of nothing.

Seriously be specific. What progress is being made on the diplomacy front?

 

You mean the act of god that destroyed their test site? That's not really diplomacy. 

You mean the meeting with South Korea? There was one in 2007. A lot of good that got us.

 

The meeting with Trump would have indeed been significant progress, but it didn't happen. 

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11 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

Yes that was written by the President of the United States. Almost like a child writing to a pen friend

He had to get in something about how "massive and powerful" we are (he is)

 

As much as I'd love to see people like Iran and North Korea disarmed, the US definitely has a bit of a "hypocrite" problem sitting on our massive stockpile of weapons that could destroy the planet several times over.

[Jacque67 7,328]

21 minutes ago, bcking said:

I feel like KJU took a page out of Trump's playbook. Now the headlines are "Trump cancelled, KJU still willing to meet". Makes him seem reasonable.

 

That being said, he was doing the typical thing that North Korea does in these situations. They make initial overtures towards peace talks and then get increasingly unrealistic with their demands to the point where things break down.

 

Seriously be specific. What progress is being made on the diplomacy front?

 

You mean the act of god that destroyed their test site? That's not really diplomacy. 

You mean the meeting with South Korea? There was one in 2007. A lot of good that got us.

 

The meeting with Trump would have indeed been significant progress, but it didn't happen. 

An expert, Robert E Kelly has an interesting thread

 

So what happened to the summit? 1. Trumpian incompetence The common thread across the failures of the N Korea summit, Obamacare repeal, the wall, infrastructure, China trade, etc. is Trump’s laziness & disinterest in the grunt work required by his job. ‘Presidenting’ is hard,/1

6 hours ago

 

[Jacque67 7,328]

So thirsty.

The Apprentice :Denuclearisation Edition

 

"talent"

 

Very good news to receive the warm and productive statement from North Korea. We will soon see where it will lead, hopefully to long and enduring prosperity and peace. Only time (and talent) will tell!

1 hour ago

DJT