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I really don't think you want to show that you support her. It will raise the question that she is only into you for the money. They will think well she was getting along just fine for x years without your help, why would they need your support now unless it is just to be with you. Now, that said, I sent evidence of money that I sent my fiancee with my I129 package to show not that I support her, I really don't, but it shows I bought her things for her birthday, and her sons birthday, and that I sent her money as a gift for valentines day, etc. I think as long as you aren't paying for her whole life, just sending the usual gifts and money for specific times it is a good thing, it shows you have a relationship. I have seen many threads that go either way, and I guess it depends of the embassy she is going thru etc. I will let you know if it comes up at her interview if that ever happens, LOL, but I think you get the idea. You don't want them to think you are buying your wife, but you want to show you have a commitment to the relationship. I sent a copy of my summary page from transferwise showing the money I sent her because each transaction has a reason you sent the money such as Birthday gift, general living expenses. I sent proof that I paid for her English language school she attended, etc. So it is up to you, but I sent some proof of financial statements in my I129.

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I would avoid it personally. Money and love are separate beasts with only some overlap (money is needed to live, obviously). Focus on actual evidence of a relationship together.

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1 hour ago, Loren Y said:

I really don't think you want to show that you support her. It will raise the question that she is only into you for the money. They will think well she was getting along just fine for x years without your help, why would they need your support now unless it is just to be with you. Now, that said, I sent evidence of money that I sent my fiancee with my I129 package to show not that I support her, I really don't, but it shows I bought her things for her birthday, and her sons birthday, and that I sent her money as a gift for valentines day, etc. I think as long as you aren't paying for her whole life, just sending the usual gifts and money for specific times it is a good thing, it shows you have a relationship. I have seen many threads that go either way, and I guess it depends of the embassy she is going thru etc. I will let you know if it comes up at her interview if that ever happens, LOL, but I think you get the idea. You don't want them to think you are buying your wife, but you want to show you have a commitment to the relationship. I sent a copy of my summary page from transferwise showing the money I sent her because each transaction has a reason you sent the money such as Birthday gift, general living expenses. I sent proof that I paid for her English language school she attended, etc. So it is up to you, but I sent some proof of financial statements in my I129.

Thanks.  I don't know how I can get around it.  I hope it doesn't complicate things.

38 minutes ago, geowrian said:

I would avoid it personally. Money and love are separate beasts with only some overlap (money is needed to live, obviously). Focus on actual evidence of a relationship together.

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1 hour ago, Barry and Lynn said:

If you do, do you include financial statements in your F-129 package?

I support my fiance, but I included nothing about that in our I-129F package. I included proof I meet the income requirements, and that was it. They don't need to know how much I do or do not spend supporting my family-to-be. I also wouldn't try to say "look how serious we are, because I send her money!" because that doesn't prove anything of the sort. 

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I don't send money to my fiancee with exception of normal gifts. For instance, I bought her son a big boy bed, or birthday, Christmas, Valentines Day gifts. Outside of that, when we meet up she pays for her flights and I take care of the hotel and our excursions. I keep money out of the relationship. That being said...I agree with Driven and geowrian. I don't think anyone needs to know what you do or do not spend on your fiancee. And it also doesn't prove you are in a legitimate relationship...I think it just muddies the water. But that's just my opinion. I don't recall there being any request for this kind of financial information in the I-129.

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You are correct Kali4nia58, I don't see any specific requirement to show financial support. However, in the Step-by-Step guide on How to File for a K-1 visa on this site, pages 2 and 3 mention showing some proof of an ongoing relationship....letters, call logs, etc. Each case has its own individual take on things.  For mine:

We have lived together in the same rented home in Southern Thailand for more than 3 years.  My fiancé has not worked during this time (I mentioned in Part 8 that it was not worth her working 50-60 hours each week for the equivalent of $225-$250 a MONTH when my income was sufficient to cover our living expenses). Actually, except for a part-time job in her home town in Isan while I was away in 2014, she hasn't worked in over 5 years.

I returned to the US in February to set up a residence/home for us and apply for the K-1.  She still lives in our rented house in southern Thailand waiting for the K-1 approval.  I support her with monthly wire transfers to continue to pay rent, internet, utilities, food...all the things I was providing for when I was living with her there. I would think that would be proof of an ongoing relationship, in addition to the Skype screen shots, no?

Perhaps a statement similar to the above should be included???

Kinda front loading for the Embassy? (The embassy denied a B1/B2 tourist visa about 2 years ago, the no home ties thing.) Just want to show the government we're still together after 5 years and are serious.

Input, thoughts appreciated in the spirt of the forum.

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11 minutes ago, AoNang said:

You are correct Kali4nia58, I don't see any specific requirement to show financial support. However, in the Step-by-Step guide on How to File for a K-1 visa on this site, pages 2 and 3 mention showing some proof of an ongoing relationship....letters, call logs, etc. Each case has its own individual take on things.  For mine:

We have lived together in the same rented home in Southern Thailand for more than 3 years.  My fiancé has not worked during this time (I mentioned in Part 8 that it was not worth her working 50-60 hours each week for the equivalent of $225-$250 a MONTH when my income was sufficient to cover our living expenses). Actually, except for a part-time job in her home town in Isan while I was away in 2014, she hasn't worked in over 5 years.

I returned to the US in February to set up a residence/home for us and apply for the K-1.  She still lives in our rented house in southern Thailand waiting for the K-1 approval.  I support her with monthly wire transfers to continue to pay rent, internet, utilities, food...all the things I was providing for when I was living with her there. I would think that would be proof of an ongoing relationship, in addition to the Skype screen shots, no?

Perhaps a statement similar to the above should be included???

Kinda front loading for the Embassy? (The embassy denied a B1/B2 tourist visa about 2 years ago, the no home ties thing.) Just want to show the government we're still together after 5 years and are serious.

Input, thoughts appreciated in the spirt of the forum.

Thanks

I think that makes sense. Sounds like you made a home over there and while you are back in the US pending the Visa you are still taking care of your home...your fiancee being part of that home/life you created.

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1 hour ago, Kali4nia58 said:

I don't recall there being any request for this kind of financial information in the I-129.

It can certainly come up in the visa interview.

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05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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22 hours ago, Barry and Lynn said:

If you do, do you include financial statements in your F-129 package?

I supported my fiance now wife but I never included that in package at all. 

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My fiancé then wife said it wasn’t necessary since she had a job and lived at home.

 

Personally I wouldn’t treat a foreign SO any different than a SO in the US so financial support never entered into the equation. 

 

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10 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I supported my fiance now wife but I never included that in package at all. 

Thanks.  I was hoping to find others who were in my situation and Its good to know I don't need to include it in mine.

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1 minute ago, Barry and Lynn said:

Thanks.  I was hoping to find others who were in my situation and Its good to know I don't need to include it in mine.

Not a problem we are always happy to help here on VJ.

 

My backstory is that I my wife while we were both working in Qatar and fell in love. I moved on to working in Afghanistan unfortunately. I went to visit her and her family in the Philippines and we talked it out and I told her I would support her if she stayed there so that we could work on us. Not to mention if she went back to Qatar we couldn't see each other while I was on vacation from work. So I supported her for 18 months until her visa was approved and we moved to the USA to get married and start a family together.

 

Just be advised that when you bring her over and y'all get married that she will still be expecting to send some money home every month. This is natural for Filipinos so don't get mad. What some couples do is say your wife works she will help contribute to the house and whatever extra she can do with as she wants, or you say pay xyz bills then after that do what you want with the money.

 

Also there is a Philippine subforum if you have any Philippine specific questions. Where is your fiancé from in the Philippines if you don't mind me asking?

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/129-philippines/

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30 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Not a problem we are always happy to help here on VJ.

 

My backstory is that I my wife while we were both working in Qatar and fell in love. I moved on to working in Afghanistan unfortunately. I went to visit her and her family in the Philippines and we talked it out and I told her I would support her if she stayed there so that we could work on us. Not to mention if she went back to Qatar we couldn't see each other while I was on vacation from work. So I supported her for 18 months until her visa was approved and we moved to the USA to get married and start a family together.

 

Just be advised that when you bring her over and y'all get married that she will still be expecting to send some money home every month. This is natural for Filipinos so don't get mad. What some couples do is say your wife works she will help contribute to the house and whatever extra she can do with as she wants, or you say pay xyz bills then after that do what you want with the money.

 

Also there is a Philippine subforum if you have any Philippine specific questions. Where is your fiancé from in the Philippines if you don't mind me asking?

 

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/129-philippines/

She lives in Tarlac City.  Fortunately most of her family is pretty well off.  However her daughter will continue to stay in their apartment while she goes to college, so we will send her money.  After a few years here, we are planning to go back there to retire, by then my retirement should be enough to allow a comfortable life.  

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