Tourist Visa Second Applicant

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

20 minutes ago, NYCruiser said:

 

 

You are not listening to what is being said. Have him come to visit you or another advise might be to meet him in another country? Say Canada though it is also very tough.

He can’t. He can’t get a passport because the US won’t issue passports to people who owe child support.

[Ontarkie 14,226]

Just putting this out there because some ppl who owe child support do not always tell the truth of why they owe so much. Many just skip out on it because they don't want to pay. The amount your BF owes is crazy for someone who was only out of work for a few months. 

Most ppl who get a pay cut or job loss can get significantly reduced payments. Once a new job is found or they make better money then payments once again are adjusted. 

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16 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

I know it’s been said but let me say this as a South African - this guy should not be thinking about paying lobola until he has sorted out his child support payments. This is his CHILD, who did not ask to be born, parents have an obligation to support. I know you think you love him but think about this objectively, what do you really think about a dude who is considering paying lobola for a woman he’s never met yet but is behind on support to his own child? This is not a good sign for someone who has his priorities right. Especially if you are considering having kids with him.  ...all this assumes of course that you have actually discussed lobola with him. If you haven’t, that’s an entirely different thing to think about.

Ok so that bunch of unsolicited advice aside.... it used to be pretty easy to get tourist visas from SA and it’s become increasingly difficult in recent years because more and more people are overstaying visas. I don’t know why your job ties weren’t good enough for the previous application but if it’s the same job, given that they saw your pay slip, that assessment probably won’t change. Graduating makes you less rather than more likely to come back as it’s one less tie. Any suspicion that you weren’t being forthright before will probably have been noted in the visa notes from the previous interview. 

Now... you having a UK visa is interesting. I presume you were honest and listed that you were refused a US visa on the application. As you already know but others here may not, the UK application is way more intense and detailed than the US one. So getting that visa may be a plus. Traveling for your case study may help, it’s hard to say. R50k is a lot in SA, it’s not a huge amount in the US, so yes more savings will help, will it be enough, hard to say. Bottom line is you need to show some significantly improved factors to get a visa after a previous refusal.

 

by the way what consulate are you interviewing at?

Sandton in Johannesburg  and thank you so much for your advise . 

 

10 hours ago, javadown2 said:

How did you meet? so your saying you had NO IDEA he was American before communicating with him?

yes it was on a dating site and he made the first contact , my interest where things that we had in common with each other ,I only learn after two days when when we got to speak on app .

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1 hour ago, Ontarkie said:

Just putting this out there because some ppl who owe child support do not always tell the truth of why they owe so much. Many just skip out on it because they don't want to pay. The amount your BF owes is crazy for someone who was only out of work for a few months. 

Most ppl who get a pay cut or job loss can get significantly reduced payments. Once a new job is found or they make better money then payments once again are adjusted. 

lost his job 2005 when the child was born and think only started working in 2009 

I am a mother raising my sister's kids l was not gona believe everything he said , he has introduce me to the baby mama we do talk in email as l had things l wanted to understand from her side of things - She was not sure when the child was born when his ex was in the army . it was after a year he asked for DNA and they did confirm the child was his .I totally agree the child support should be paid off irregardless he must take responsibility yes we where just trying to find other alternatives of us meeting while he is busy making payments for his arrears .

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5 hours ago, NYCruiser said:

OP, reading through all the responses you have been given, I noted that you will not get a Visa to go visit him the second or third time etc....Believe me when  tell you that. You are very very privileged to be on this site. I wish we had that when we were dating. Would have cost us much less to apply for a B2 if we were on this site before we tried.

 

You are not listening to what is being said. Have him come to visit you or another advise might be to meet him in another country? Say Canada though it is also very tough.

@NYCruiser l am grateful for all the advise l actually regret should have joined this forum before l made my first application l had no idea and did not know mentioning to see a person for the first time was of such importance to the embassy as l knew l was coming back .Thank you guys so much l do understand the only option available to me is him sorting our his debt and visit though it's a long way.

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11 hours ago, javadown2 said:

Why are you quoting your own post...really confusing. 

so please still new here learning a lot hahahahah it was a mistake l am sorry 

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@NYCruiser but how does he get to Canada without a passport or USA Citizen don't need one to get to Canada???

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19 hours ago, Jojo92122 said:

My previous post was based solely on your first post here.  What you are doing already looks shady. 

I just found your previous thread.  The boyfriend is your real reason for coming to the US.  Employer has nothing to do with the reason for your personal non-business desire to visit the US.  Have your boyfriend pay his child support so he can get a passport and visit you to meet the K-1 requirements.

@Jojo92122 I understand my situation looks very bad but why try twist some of the things l said , l never said l was travelling on a business trip , l said was awarded an incentive travel meaning boss was sponsoring the vacation . These are vacations awarded to anyone who excel at the end of the year in my company and you choose the country you want to travel as long as it fits the incentive prize money or you top up and it's a country that are in our itineraries so it was purely leisure and bit of  educational then pleasure to see bf and boss was not part of that .

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5 hours ago, Vovo said:

@Jojo92122 I understand my situation looks very bad but why try twist some of the things l said , l never said l was travelling on a business trip , l said was awarded an incentive travel meaning boss was sponsoring the vacation . These are vacations awarded to anyone who excel at the end of the year in my company and you choose the country you want to travel as long as it fits the incentive prize money or you top up and it's a country that are in our itineraries so it was purely leisure and bit of  educational then pleasure to see bf and boss was not part of that .

Ok.  That changes everything.  It guess I have been looking at your situation the wrong way.  Obviously, you weren't trying to get a visitor visa to go see your BF.

Best of luck.

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1 hour ago, Jojo92122 said:

Ok.  That changes everything.  It guess I have been looking at your situation the wrong way.  Obviously, you weren't trying to get a visitor visa to go see your BF.

Best of luck.

I know right.......if it were the real reason why even mention the boyfriend? Again, worry more about your new boyfriend and him being able to straighten out his life first. Then he can come see you. 

[Ontarkie 14,226]

12 hours ago, Vovo said:

lost his job 2005 when the child was born and think only started working in 2009 

I am a mother raising my sister's kids l was not gona believe everything he said , he has introduce me to the baby mama we do talk in email as l had things l wanted to understand from her side of things - She was not sure when the child was born when his ex was in the army . it was after a year he asked for DNA and they did confirm the child was his .I totally agree the child support should be paid off irregardless he must take responsibility yes we where just trying to find other alternatives of us meeting while he is busy making payments for his arrears .

That makes much more sense. It is too bad he didn't seek help to get reduced payments when he was unemployed. It is so hard in these situations but at least you know he's not messing with you in this department. 

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11 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

That makes much more sense. It is too bad he didn't seek help to get reduced payments when he was unemployed. It is so hard in these situations but at least you know he's not messing with you in this department. 

 

11 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

That makes much more sense. It is too bad he didn't seek help to get reduced payments when he was unemployed. It is so hard in these situations but at least you know he's not messing with you in this department. 

 

11 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

That makes much more sense. It is too bad he didn't seek help to get reduced payments when he was unemployed. It is so hard in these situations but at least you know he's not messing with you in this department. 

@Ontarkie yes I am glad you see the sense in it , she initially did not want any money or support from him back in 2006 but he knew there was a possibility the child was his hence they agreed to do a  paternity test and  , So there is no beef between them or do l smell any lies from how his arrears where accumulated , we can actually asked her to forgive the debt but this is not an option he must make up for the lost time , She is so supportive of us and happy for him .

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4 hours ago, Vovo said:

 

 

@Ontarkie yes I am glad you see the sense in it , she initially did not want any money or support from him back in 2006 but he knew there was a possibility the child was his hence they agreed to do a  paternity test and  , So there is no beef between them or do l smell any lies from how his arrears where accumulated , we can actually asked her to forgive the debt but this is not an option he must make up for the lost time , She is so supportive of us and happy for him .

wow l honestly give up , but don't they think if we wanted to get married he can come here and we do so ? and not everyone wants to relocated and not every relationship leads to marriage . And the reason why in the first place l had applied for that was because we had only met one month so was not comfortable to go and be hosted at his place but now that l know him better l felt why not . But clearly that not how thing are perceived 

Just want to visit, right?  Not every relationship leads to marriage you say?   Yet the first thing his friend mentions is 90 day Fiancee and the K-1 visa.  Nothing suspicious here.  

 

Edited May 23, 2018 by Jojo92122

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@Vovo its pretty obvious what you are doing, and it was obvious to the CO at your interview too.

 

Everything you post just screams of wanting to overstay.

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1 hour ago, Jojo92122 said:

Just want to visit, right?  Correct - Not every relationship leads to marriage you say? / Yes the ones l have experienced l would agree 100%   Yet the first thing his friend mentions is 90 day Fiancee and the K-1 visa./I am glad you even quoting her friend at the end of it all this is our relationship she might have ideas of how we will end up together obviously but we still getting to know each other and anywhere l am not surprise even my friends think should we end together they think l will go on the show 90 days to wed hahahahah is so funny how people think