Tourist Visa Second Applicant

[Jojo92122 1,924]

  9 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

A non-desperate timeline.

Your BF paying his child support./ He is already doing that Jojo it will take years so now his life has to stop because of that ?  No, life goes on regardless of what he does; life doesn't stop.  A US citizen is not entitled to a US passport.  If he wants one, then he needs to comply with the law.

Your BF getting a US passport./ Just for interest sake if you had lost your job for years and could not keep up with the child support payment don't you think too you will be in the same situation ? , life is unpredictable  you could be in the same position look at the situations both side just because it's raining in your field does not mean it will rain forever and  None of this is relevant to the US Government.  Until your BF meets his child support obligations, he will not qualify for a passport.

Your BF coming to visit you.

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8 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

  9 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

A non-desperate timeline.

Your BF paying his child support./ He is already doing that Jojo it will take years so now his life has to stop because of that ?  No, life goes on regardless of what he does; life doesn't stop.  A US citizen is not entitled to a US passport.  If he wants one, then he needs to comply with the law.

Your BF getting a US passport./ Just for interest sake if you had lost your job for years and could not keep up with the child support payment don't you think too you will be in the same situation ? , life is unpredictable  you could be in the same position look at the situations both side just because it's raining in your field does not mean it will rain forever and  None of this is relevant to the US Government.  Until your BF meets his child support obligations, he will not qualify for a passport.

Your BF coming to visit you.

so what it means is even if he comes as long as we not married or filed for K1 l would not be able to just visit the USA on a tourist visa correct oh l see ?

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@Vovo

 

US immigration does not like to be lied to. If they suspected you had other intentions for your previous trip, then they will always look at you with suspicion.

 

If you two really want to be together, then it will happen but you have to understand that there will be obstacles given your history and his limitations for travel. I agree that he needs to clear up his legal problem and it will greatly increase your chances of seeing each other.

 

I want to give you an idea on why it would be difficult for you to get a visitor visa now. Because your boyfriend is limited on him visiting you, the chances of you staying in the US and marrying him for a green card is higher. If you were to get a B2 now, he wouldn't have to clear up his legal matters for you two to be together. You can come over and stay with him to see how things work out, then if all is well, you would get married and adjust your status for a green card later. As for the cultural aspects of it. There are no cultural rituals or customs to be performed to be married in America. A person only needs to be free to marry and obtain a marriage certificate. He could always meet your family and complete the cultural aspects that you mentioned at a later date.

 

You application history is on record. They know you have filed before. If you file too many times too soon it will come off as desperate and will lower your chances.

 

Take the advice or JoJo and Boiler and work on alternate plans.

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5 minutes ago, Vovo said:

so what it means is even if he comes as long as we not married or filed for K1 l would not be able to just visit the USA on a tourist visa correct oh l see ?

Well noted and thank you so much l am learning a lot l did not know . 

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11 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

@Vovo

 

US immigration does not like to be lied to. If they suspected you had other intentions for your previous trip, then they will always look at you with suspicion.

 

If you two really want to be together, then it will happen but you have to understand that there will be obstacles given your history and his limitations for travel. I agree that he needs to clear up his legal problem and it will greatly increase your chances of seeing each other.

 

I want to give you an idea on why it would be difficult for you to get a visitor visa now. Because your boyfriend is limited on him visiting you, the chances of you staying in the US and marrying him for a green card is higher. If you were to get a B2 now, he wouldn't have to clear up his legal matters for you two to be together. You can come over and stay with him to see how things work out, then if all is well, you would get married and adjust your status for a green card later. As for the cultural aspects of it. There are no cultural rituals or customs to be performed to be married in America. A person only needs to be free to marry and obtain a marriage certificate. He could always meet your family and complete the cultural aspects that you mentioned at a later date.

 

You application history is on record. They know you have filed before. If you file too many times too soon it will come off as desperate and will lower your chances.

 

Take the advice or JoJo and Boiler and work on alternate plans.

Thank you so much @ Jojo , Boiler and Ne

13 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

@Vovo

 

US immigration does not like to be lied to. If they suspected you had other intentions for your previous trip, then they will always look at you with suspicion.

 

If you two really want to be together, then it will happen but you have to understand that there will be obstacles given your history and his limitations for travel. I agree that he needs to clear up his legal problem and it will greatly increase your chances of seeing each other.

 

I want to give you an idea on why it would be difficult for you to get a visitor visa now. Because your boyfriend is limited on him visiting you, the chances of you staying in the US and marrying him for a green card is higher. If you were to get a B2 now, he wouldn't have to clear up his legal matters for you two to be together. You can come over and stay with him to see how things work out, then if all is well, you would get married and adjust your status for a green card later. As for the cultural aspects of it. There are no cultural rituals or customs to be performed to be married in America. A person only needs to be free to marry and obtain a marriage certificate. He could always meet your family and complete the cultural aspects that you mentioned at a later date.

 

You application history is on record. They know you have filed before. If you file too many times too soon it will come off as desperate and will lower your chances.

 

Take the advice or JoJo and Boiler and work on alternate plans.

Thank @ Neustraunion little did l know he was from USA when we first met and had not idea meeting was gona be a nightmare .But well said l greatly appreciate the input you have given me and will use it wisely .

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1 hour ago, Vovo said:

Yes but not right away we can , there are still things like introduction to family , lobola negotiations and meet in real person . Sometimes you meet a person in real life and only realize it's all a mistake . If he seem to be the person l think he is yes l will marry but that does not mean tomorrow  

I know it’s been said but let me say this as a South African - this guy should not be thinking about paying lobola until he has sorted out his child support payments. This is his CHILD, who did not ask to be born, parents have an obligation to support. I know you think you love him but think about this objectively, what do you really think about a dude who is considering paying lobola for a woman he’s never met yet but is behind on support to his own child? This is not a good sign for someone who has his priorities right. Especially if you are considering having kids with him.  ...all this assumes of course that you have actually discussed lobola with him. If you haven’t, that’s an entirely different thing to think about.

Ok so that bunch of unsolicited advice aside.... it used to be pretty easy to get tourist visas from SA and it’s become increasingly difficult in recent years because more and more people are overstaying visas. I don’t know why your job ties weren’t good enough for the previous application but if it’s the same job, given that they saw your pay slip, that assessment probably won’t change. Graduating makes you less rather than more likely to come back as it’s one less tie. Any suspicion that you weren’t being forthright before will probably have been noted in the visa notes from the previous interview. 

Now... you having a UK visa is interesting. I presume you were honest and listed that you were refused a US visa on the application. As you already know but others here may not, the UK application is way more intense and detailed than the US one. So getting that visa may be a plus. Traveling for your case study may help, it’s hard to say. R50k is a lot in SA, it’s not a huge amount in the US, so yes more savings will help, will it be enough, hard to say. Bottom line is you need to show some significantly improved factors to get a visa after a previous refusal.

 

by the way what consulate are you interviewing at?

Edited May 21, 2018 by SusieQQQ

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The combination of having a criminal record, from a developing country, lack of ties to home country and having a US based bf makes getting a US visa difficult for you.

 

But it doesn't mean having a US bf equals to tourist visa denial.  I was living in Hong Kong with my US bf and I was invited to meet his families in the States, went to apply for the visa, told the reason exactly as it is and was approved with absolutely no questioning.

 

 

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A noncontributory post has been removed.  Please stick to the OP's issue.

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6 hours ago, Vovo said:

Jojo l am not sure why you being so mean , he did not voluntarily decide he is not going to pay his child support for one child but he lost his job and when he go a job he got into an arrangement to pay his current and the arreage on his child support 

$17000 is not just oops I lost my job for a month or 2...that is probable 3-4 years worth of not paying. You should let this guy get his life arranged and if he can get a passport and pay for a trip to see you...then you can think about marriage/k-1/cr-1 or what ever you hope for. He obviously is NOT ready to support a wife and 2 children (let alone more that you are eluding to). 

 

My answer is don't bother with another application because you really can't strengthen anything from the first one you sent in. 

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5 hours ago, mcdull said:

The combination of having a criminal record, from a developing country, lack of ties to home country and having a US based bf makes getting a US visa difficult for you.

 

But it doesn't mean having a US bf equals to tourist visa denial.  I was living in Hong Kong with my US bf and I was invited to meet his families in the States, went to apply for the visa, told the reason exactly as it is and was approved with absolutely no questioning.

 

 

yeah, but your not from a country like South Africa with so much history of immigration fraud, and your case sounds very much different (IE: you were living with your BF in your home country/city already). I think it has more to do with her job and the whole circumstances on how she presented her application, it really is a poor plan with a high probability that she can't afford all this. 

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6 hours ago, Vovo said:

Well noted and thank you so much l am learning a lot l did not know . 

Why are you quoting your own post...really confusing. 

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6 hours ago, Vovo said:

Thank you so much @ Jojo , Boiler and Ne

Thank @ Neustraunion little did l know he was from USA when we first met and had not idea meeting was gona be a nightmare .But well said l greatly appreciate the input you have given me and will use it wisely .

How did you meet? so your saying you had NO IDEA he was American before communicating with him?

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

23 minutes ago, javadown2 said:

yeah, but your not from a country like South Africa with so much history of immigration fraud, and your case sounds very much different (IE: you were living with your BF in your home country/city already). I think it has more to do with her job and the whole circumstances on how she presented her application, it really is a poor plan with a high probability that she can't afford all this. 

SA actually does not have a big history of immigration fraud. It is getting worse and refusals are rising but still very, very low (6%) compared to many Asian and other African countries with often 30-60% refusal rates. So the refusal is very much based on her individual circumstances rather than some general “this is a hard country to get visas from”.

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45 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

SA actually does not have a big history of immigration fraud. It is getting worse and refusals are rising but still very, very low (6%) compared to many Asian and other African countries with often 30-60% refusal rates. So the refusal is very much based on her individual circumstances rather than some general “this is a hard country to get visas from”.

Fair enough, I stand corrected then. She did have a poorly planned application. 

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13 hours ago, Vovo said:

Yes you right @Boiler realistically speaking we given ourselves a 2 year plan , him trying sort out his debt and l try get a second application if possible 

OP, reading through all the responses you have been given, I noted that you will not get a Visa to go visit him the second or third time etc....Believe me when  tell you that. You are very very privileged to be on this site. I wish we had that when we were dating. Would have cost us much less to apply for a B2 if we were on this site before we tried.

 

You are not listening to what is being said. Have him come to visit you or another advise might be to meet him in another country? Say Canada though it is also very tough.