Air travel on overstayed visa

[arken 4,197]

Usually in domestic travels, They just look at the name on the ID (passport in your friend’s case) and the bording pass to make sure they match. They don’t look for status or visa stuffs.

 

However, we are at a time when even American citizens are being detained for speaking spanish with the suspicion that they are illegals. So if your fren happens to encounter a similar TSA agent, it’s gonna be a problem.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

43 minutes ago, kevdman said:

  I simply wanted to make it clear her 10 year visa was intact other than her clear violation of the conditions.  

And we’ve been trying to make clear that it’s NOT. Yet you keep repeating it.

 

by the way you can ask a mod to close the discussion if you want, but you don’t have the right to tell another poster to stop posting. Read the terms of service.

[bswt2 19]

Is it safe to travel domestically? Most likely, but there will always be a risk.

 

There are no gray areas when it comes to violating the terms of your visa, she overstayed her visa which automatically voided it.

 

 

[arken 4,197]

Both of your statements listed below are not correct and when people pointed that out you are blaming them as judgmental and want to end the conversation!! 

 

13 hours ago, kevdman said:

The visa is not expired and she is in good standing otherwise.  

The visa is expired technically and she is not in good standing.

2 hours ago, kevdman said:

All I meant when I indicated her visa was in otherwise good standing was that her visa is current and she had complied with all the other conditions of the visa.

Her visa is not current and she has now not complied with the conditions of the visa.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

1 minute ago, arken said:

Both of your statements listed below are not correct and when people pointed that out you are blaming them as judgmental and want to end the conversation!! 

 

The visa is expired technically and she is not in good standing.

Her visa is not current and she has now not complied with the conditions of the visa.

The visa is not "expired technically."  It has been legally void under US laws.  It did not expire; it automatically became void once she overstayed as a matter of law.  It is not technically.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

Maybe he just doesn’t believe us? Here is an official State Department page on this:

 

It is important to note that there are circumstances which can serve to void or cancel the period of visa validity. If you overstay the end date of your authorized stay, as provided by the CBP officer at a port-of-entry, or United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), your visa will automatically void or cancel.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/visa-expiration-date.html

[Alabamak1 688]

13 hours ago, kevdman said:

Hi Group  I have a good friend who wants to travel from state to state via air.  The problem is she has overstayed her s months limit on her 10 year tourist visa. The visa is not expired and she is in good standing otherwise.   Is she save going through TSA at airports for domestic travel in the USA?

Thanks much

Good luck. Airports are not the only places they check for valid immigration paperwork. I live in rural Alabama and we have CBP running around here and stopping people. No borders here! The sherriff once stopped my cousin, who had a valid GC and still verified it against ICE database or something. They dint detain him, but still....

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

30 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

Good luck. Airports are not the only places they check for valid immigration paperwork. I live in rural Alabama and we have CBP running around here and stopping people. No borders here! The sherriff once stopped my cousin, who had a valid GC and still verified it against ICE database or something. They dint detain him, but still....

Indeed. Speaking Spanish at the gas station can also raise eyebrows of CBP officers in Montana. (They do have a border, but with Canada....)

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/border-patrol-agent-detains-women-speaking-spanish-montana-gas-station-n876096

[Alabamak1 688]

1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

Indeed. Speaking Spanish at the gas station can also raise eyebrows of CBP officers in Montana. (They do have a border, but with Canada....)

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/border-patrol-agent-detains-women-speaking-spanish-montana-gas-station-n876096

funny you just mention this post, because i happen to see it on FB 5 minutes ago. Those where US born citizens. Not even naturalized.

Edited May 21, 2018 by Alabamak1

[Boiler 45,519]

Before I2US closed down this was a subject that would come up, certainly does happen that people are picked up at Airports, no idea what will happen in this case, as Clint said Do you feel Lucky?

 

Well do you?

 

Always intrigued on how these issue fit in the VJ ToS, well beyond my ken.

 

 

Edited May 21, 2018 by Boiler

[kevdman 5]

2 hours ago, TNJ17 said:

It doesn’t matter if her visa is valid for 10 years or 20. If she spent more time than she was awarded at port of entry, ie the date on her most recent I-94, she’s illegally staying in the US and subject to deportation if caught. Also, her visa isn’t intact. It’s been voided the minute she overstayed, so she’s not in good standing. Traveling domestically doesn’t put you through immigration, but you never know what can happen with the current White House administration. 

Thank you.  I'm totally clear on the visa limitations and conditions.  I merely wanted to know if she could fly domoetically using her native country passportl  Thanks again.

[geowrian 22,337]

5 minutes ago, kevdman said:

Thank you.  I'm totally clear on the visa limitations and conditions.  I merely wanted to know if she could fly domoetically using her native country passportl  Thanks again.

Yes, she can. She bears the risk of getting detained, just as anybody not in the country legally does when they fly or use public transit.

 

I suggest re-reading the TOS you agreed to upon joining this site. Your "rights" to post whatever you want do not exist on a private site. Only posts in accordance with the TOS are permitted.

Edited May 21, 2018 by geowrian

[kevdman 5]

2 hours ago, bswt2 said:

Is it safe to travel domestically? Most likely, but there will always be a risk.

 

There are no gray areas when it comes to violating the terms of your visa, she overstayed her visa which automatically voided it.

 

 

Best advice thus far.  I really appreciate it. 

[kevdman 5]

2 hours ago, Alabamak1 said:

Good luck. Airports are not the only places they check for valid immigration paperwork. I live in rural Alabama and we have CBP running around here and stopping people. No borders here! The sherriff once stopped my cousin, who had a valid GC and still verified it against ICE database or something. They dint detain him, but still....

Very good advice.  Thanks much.

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3 minutes ago, kevdman said:

Thank you.  I'm totally clear on the visa limitations and conditions.  I merely wanted to know if she could fly domoetically using her native country passportl  Thanks again.

All the corrections and clarifications are not a personal attack, this forum is a place to learn and any misleading information have to be corrected over and over so others  don't get confused.

Now you are clear that she doesn't have a visa anymore despite if she goes back home now, she violated the conditions (all of them) the minute that her authorized stay expired.

She is free to travel domestically by air but the risk is always there, with this new administration there's risk even walking on the street.