90 Day Fiance -- season ??? [merged threads]

[Mary Lou 681]

37 minutes ago, JFH said:

I see the much-rumored 90DF 'The Other Way' starts on June 3 on TLC. Six couples (one person is a USC the other is from somewhere else) are starting life together in the other person's country. Pole and Kreeny are back. Makes me wonder why they wasted so much money on a CR-1 if there was no intention to live here. It does make me pleased to see that Kreeny is definitely not with him for a GC (I wasn't convinced at first). The other couples make Pole and Kreeny look normal. There's one train wreck after another. A woman leaving everything (including kids) to live with a man in South Africa with an interesting criminal past and a gambling addiction, a MENA male and blonde USC female with an age gap of over 20 years, a woman who was catfished but forgave him and stayed with him anyway (India, 30-year age gap - echoes of Lowo and Narkyia), a USC female and male from South Korea - pregnant on first visit (echoes of Kalani and Asuelo).

Oh Boy!

Speaking of Kalani and Asuelo they had their 2nd baby.

Kalani and Asuelu have welcomed their second child, a baby boy named Kennedy—after Kalani's dad. Baby Kennedy was born on May 7, 2019 at 9:11am, weighing 8 lbs, 15 oz, and 21 inches long!

[Paul & Mallory 1,398]

I am still convinced the Pillow Talk episodes are better than the actual episodes. I hope they continue this with seasons and shows down the road for sure. I like seeing the familiar faces and their commentary has been so spot on!

 

I'm super excited for The Other Way show!!

 

I was beginning to come around on Pao lately (I wasn't always a big fan of hers on the original show), but the baby shower thing annoyed me. People are throwing  you a baby shower, you show up over an hour late, and have the nerve to complain to his mom about people leaving?? And I'm sick of the "ohh that's how we are back home, parties neverrr start on time" excuse. She's been in the states long enough, and definitely knows his family well enough now, to know that's not how it works there. Stop using the "I'm a foreigner" excuse just because you're being inconsiderate. I'm glad she at least apologized for being late when she got there, but that was it. His mom is really trying, even if she is a wet noodle sometimes, but Pao is making it so hard for her.

 

Pedro needs to go home, and stay there. They are such a joke. "It is NOT FAIR that the US citizen is responsible for the foreigner's expenses!!" Did she not read the affidavit she signed... TWICE? Clearly she didn't/doesn't know how K1 works. I think so much of their arguments, are a result of language breakdowns. She said she didn't want to have a baby now because of their family drama, and I really believe he took that to mean she didn't want to have children with him period. They both do such a bad job of explaining themselves and correcting it when that happens. One just gets mad and walks away, or they just yell at each other. The poor lawyer looked like she wanted to fall into a black hole.

 

I don't know much about this in reality, so I may just be uneducated, but Azan being denied at a neutral country (was it South Korea?) - without him having given her a reason for being denied, does anyone else have a hard time buying he was actually denied? I wonder if he just didn't show up, or showed up and changed his mind, and just said he was denied. I don't know. He seems nice and genuine sometimes, but other times, I feel like he's trying to get one over on her.

[debbiedoo 2,339]

11 minutes ago, Paul & Mallory said:

I am still convinced the Pillow Talk episodes are better than the actual episodes. I hope they continue this with seasons and shows down the road for sure. I like seeing the familiar faces and their commentary has been so spot on!

 

I'm super excited for The Other Way show!!

 

I was beginning to come around on Pao lately (I wasn't always a big fan of hers on the original show), but the baby shower thing annoyed me. People are throwing  you a baby shower, you show up over an hour late, and have the nerve to complain to his mom about people leaving?? And I'm sick of the "ohh that's how we are back home, parties neverrr start on time" excuse. She's been in the states long enough, and definitely knows his family well enough now, to know that's not how it works there. Stop using the "I'm a foreigner" excuse just because you're being inconsiderate. I'm glad she at least apologized for being late when she got there, but that was it. His mom is really trying, even if she is a wet noodle sometimes, but Pao is making it so hard for her.

 

Pedro needs to go home, and stay there. They are such a joke. "It is NOT FAIR that the US citizen is responsible for the foreigner's expenses!!" Did she not read the affidavit she signed... TWICE? Clearly she didn't/doesn't know how K1 works. I think so much of their arguments, are a result of language breakdowns. She said she didn't want to have a baby now because of their family drama, and I really believe he took that to mean she didn't want to have children with him period. They both do such a bad job of explaining themselves and correcting it when that happens. One just gets mad and walks away, or they just yell at each other. The poor lawyer looked like she wanted to fall into a black hole.

 

I don't know much about this in reality, so I may just be uneducated, but Azan being denied at a neutral country (was it South Korea?) - without him having given her a reason for being denied, does anyone else have a hard time buying he was actually denied? I wonder if he just didn't show up, or showed up and changed his mind, and just said he was denied. I don't know. He seems nice and genuine sometimes, but other times, I feel like he's trying to get one over on her.

spot on, on all of it. 

 

with azan i think theres more to him being denied. either he didnt really GO (a definite possibility) or he WAS denied, which would make me REALLY concerned as to WHY. NOTHING about him seems genuine to be, and i think shes a blooming idiot

 

regardless, i dont think he likes her or is attracted to her at all. using her for $ and hoping for a way to the US. why doesnt he WORK? 

[Paul & Mallory 1,398]

3 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

spot on, on all of it. 

 

with azan i think theres more to him being denied. either he didnt really GO (a definite possibility) or he WAS denied, which would make me REALLY concerned as to WHY. NOTHING about him seems genuine to be, and i think shes a blooming idiot

 

regardless, i dont think he likes her or is attracted to her at all. using her for $ and hoping for a way to the US. why doesnt he WORK? 

Right, that's what my husband said - if he was denied, the reason has to be pretty significant, for the country he was denied from. He thinks Azan is full of s***, and so do I most of the time.

 

I don't think he's romantically or physically attracted to Nicole. I get there are cultural norms that differ from what Americans are accustom to, but I don't think it's just that. And I'm not saying that because of looks - so many people give her a hard time for being bigger and think that's the reason. I'm a big girl and my husband is not a big man, so it's definitely possible  But I think he LIKES her, like as a friend. And that's it. He's kind to her and attentive, but not in a romantic relationship sort of way. He seems to love his country, so I don't know if it's just to get money from her (which he already has so far), or if he thinks he'll have a better life or more money if he comes to the US, I just don't know. The story that they may end up living in Morocco... I can't figure out if that's all her and he hasn't pushed back yet, to keep her on the hook, or if he's just agreeing to it  thinking it won't really happen.

 

Like her mom said - if he really wanted to marry her, it would've happened already. An expensive wedding doesn't have/need to be such a deciding factor. We didn't even have a wedding until several months after we got married, for that reason. We fulfilled the K1 requirements, and saved up and planned a wedding (party) when we could manage it.

[debbiedoo 2,339]

21 minutes ago, Paul & Mallory said:

Right, that's what my husband said - if he was denied, the reason has to be pretty significant, for the country he was denied from. He thinks Azan is full of s***, and so do I most of the time.

 

I don't think he's romantically or physically attracted to Nicole. I get there are cultural norms that differ from what Americans are accustom to, but I don't think it's just that. And I'm not saying that because of looks - so many people give her a hard time for being bigger and think that's the reason. I'm a big girl and my husband is not a big man, so it's definitely possible  But I think he LIKES her, like as a friend. And that's it. He's kind to her and attentive, but not in a romantic relationship sort of way. He seems to love his country, so I don't know if it's just to get money from her (which he already has so far), or if he thinks he'll have a better life or more money if he comes to the US, I just don't know. The story that they may end up living in Morocco... I can't figure out if that's all her and he hasn't pushed back yet, to keep her on the hook, or if he's just agreeing to it  thinking it won't really happen.

 

Like her mom said - if he really wanted to marry her, it would've happened already. An expensive wedding doesn't have/need to be such a deciding factor. We didn't even have a wedding until several months after we got married, for that reason. We fulfilled the K1 requirements, and saved up and planned a wedding (party) when we could manage it.

i outweigh my husband by about 30 pounds (not that either of us are larger people and he certainly isnt LOL)

 

we got married on xmas eve in our home, our party wedding is in july. you can get married for the cost of license (in our case $20). even in Morocco a lavish wedding isnt a requirement. 

 

i think he likes her as a friend well enough, but not as a wife/lover. i dont think hes attracted to her in that sense. 

[Paul & Mallory 1,398]

36 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

i outweigh my husband by about 30 pounds (not that either of us are larger people and he certainly isnt LOL)

 

we got married on xmas eve in our home, our party wedding is in july. you can get married for the cost of license (in our case $20). even in Morocco a lavish wedding isnt a requirement. 

 

i think he likes her as a friend well enough, but not as a wife/lover. i dont think hes attracted to her in that sense. 

Right, exactly! He's another Muhammed. "Oh it's my culture/religion, I can't do this or that." And because of it all, he's cost his own family so much money. They both have! I cannot even imagine.

[JFH 12,191]

I have been saying all along that I don’t believe Azan was denied entry into South Korea. I don’t think he even boarded the plane. He may not have even bought a ticket. I’m guessing the trip was her idea and came from her pocketbook, like everything else. If she sent him the money to buy the ticket I’ll wager that he didn’t even buy it. Seems odd that he would have booked a ticket to arrive a day or two before her. To do what? Check out the sights on his own? I don’t buy it. I think he told her he was arriving before her so he could give her the story of being sent back. If they had planned to arrive at a similar time she would have been waiting for him in the airport and the story of being sent back would be harder to fake. Likewise if he was arriving after her. She would have come to the airport to meet him. At least he did her a favor by letting her know before she travelled all the way there for nothing. 

 

On the facebook group they all seem to think he actually went and was refused and so there are rumors of drugs, criminal records, etc. when I think the answer is much simpler. He wasn’t in love with her enough to fly halfway round the world to see her. So he stayed home. 

 

I feel sorry for her that she doesn’t realize that he doesn’t want to marry her. My husband and I were both saying that if he really wanted to marry her he would have done it by now. We had a very basic courthouse ceremony - the bare minimum for it to be legal. No trimmings. No party. No fancy outfits. No honeymoon. But we are no more or less married than people who spend $30,000 on a wedding and then spend a week at a 5-Star resort on honeymoon. We just wanted to be together and the only way to achieve that was to marry and file for my CR-1. 

 

 

My mother always said “if you wait until you have enough money for your dream wedding, your wedding will always be a dream because you’ll never have enough. Just get married with what you do have”. 

Edited May 19, 2019 by JFH

[Eric-Pris 1,607]

These people are completely delusional.

 

Fat Nicole sticks her head in the sand when the topic of his voicemail massages comes up.  She wants to pretend that THEY called off the wedding.  The reality is that HE called off the wedding TWICE.  She is so desperate hanging onto the slim chance that they may get married.  But he seems to avoid any physical time together, he just needs her to keep sending money.  They are supposed to meet in Grenada, but I bet he'll come up with some excuse why he can't.    The father says "I hope that she doesn't come back pregnant".  Pregnant from who?  Not Azan.  They will never be intimate, even on their wedding night I bet.  Another Mohammad.

 

Colombian Diva can't understand why people don't want to accept her.   She showed up VERY late for her baby shower and people started leaving.  And she was shocked.  Her dear husband is planning to move back to Oklahoma, but hasn't told her yet.  

 

The blonde Barbie is still living with the Jamaican kid, even though he "cheated" on her.  And she's just doing stuff to get back at him.  Things like going out for drinks with her ex, and going to NYC with her girlfriends.  Who's the immature one?  They both seem to be.

 

Elizabeth and the Maldovan alpha male are both like children.  The Maldovan is not working.  He went to trucking school but can't find a job.  He gets an offer for temp work that's pay like $800-1000/week and they both scuffed at it, like it's peanuts.  Obviously, it's not a lot but for somebody with no education and no experience, does he expect $150,000/year?  They need a dose of reality.  The father has allowed them to live rent free, and he asked that they do some fixing up it.  Not sure what he expects but they haven't done any of it and just mooch off the father.  Now, the husband says that they are moving because he's sick of the fact that the father holds it over their head, which I have not seen.  I think the fact that the father expects them to do some work in exchange for free rent doesn't seem to sit well with them.  Complete idiots.  

 

Also, he shows signs of being an abuser.  He has a bad temper it seems, and you can tell that she knows when not to push things past a point.  

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

On 5/18/2019 at 9:41 PM, JFH said:

I have been saying all along that I don’t believe Azan was denied entry into South Korea. I don’t think he even boarded the plane. He may not have even bought a ticket. I’m guessing the trip was her idea and came from her pocketbook, like everything else. If she sent him the money to buy the ticket I’ll wager that he didn’t even buy it. Seems odd that he would have booked a ticket to arrive a day or two before her. To do what? Check out the sights on his own? I don’t buy it. I think he told her he was arriving before her so he could give her the story of being sent back. If they had planned to arrive at a similar time she would have been waiting for him in the airport and the story of being sent back would be harder to fake. Likewise if he was arriving after her. She would have come to the airport to meet him. At least he did her a favor by letting her know before she travelled all the way there for nothing. 

 

On the facebook group they all seem to think he actually went and was refused and so there are rumors of drugs, criminal records, etc. when I think the answer is much simpler. He wasn’t in love with her enough to fly halfway round the world to see her. So he stayed home. 

 

I feel sorry for her that she doesn’t realize that he doesn’t want to marry her. My husband and I were both saying that if he really wanted to marry her he would have done it by now. We had a very basic courthouse ceremony - the bare minimum for it to be legal. No trimmings. No party. No fancy outfits. No honeymoon. But we are no more or less married than people who spend $30,000 on a wedding and then spend a week at a 5-Star resort on honeymoon. We just wanted to be together and the only way to achieve that was to marry and file for my CR-1. 

 

 

My mother always said “if you wait until you have enough money for your dream wedding, your wedding will always be a dream because you’ll never have enough. Just get married with what you do have”. 

The main couple Reddit groups really think that he NEVER went to SK at all because if he did and was refused then there would be evidence of that. 

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[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

So I am watching the 90 days after with the English guy that got into 30 fights. So after a year she still has not filed for his freaking visa yet but is complaining that "it could take up to 3 years before he comes to the USA". She is utterly ridiculous and bugs the ####### out of me

[Mary Lou 681]

8 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So I am watching the 90 days after with the English guy that got into 30 fights. So after a year she still has not filed for his freaking visa yet but is complaining that "it could take up to 3 years before he comes to the USA". She is utterly ridiculous and bugs the ####### out of me

They said they only have 6, 000. Um the I-130 is $535 if i am correct? She could have had that filed months ago!!

[debbiedoo 2,339]

2 hours ago, Mary Lou said:

They said they only have 6, 000. Um the I-130 is $535 if i am correct? She could have had that filed months ago!!

yeah she could have. with his criminal background though, an attorney is probably a necessity to overcome that hurdle.

 

i know a lot of people didnt like this couple, but we adored them and thought they were one of the few genuine ones on the show. id love to see a follow up on them.

[Carpe Vinum 2,330]

On 5/14/2019 at 10:45 AM, Paul & Mallory said:

I wonder if he just didn't show up, or showed up and changed his mind, and just said he was denied.

I was thinking the same thing when I watched that pillow talk episode. My man just wants the green card. He does not want to be anywhere where he might have to actually show her any affection...

[Carpe Vinum 2,330]

1 hour ago, debbiedoo said:

yeah she could have. with his criminal background though, an attorney is probably a necessity to overcome that hurdle.

 

i know a lot of people didnt like this couple, but we adored them and thought they were one of the few genuine ones on the show. id love to see a follow up on them.

He has a criminal background. I think they think they need a lawyer....I like them too. I think a lot of the drama between them was generated just for the show.