Travel to Hawaii

[kitkat1 5]

They can ask, but it does not mean you are required to have one.

No ID at all will not prevent you from flying. You will end up with a very thorough search (if we wanted real security, everyone would get this search).

Well I guess my point here is that no one really wants to go through that kind of search or irritation when it can easily be avoided by forking over a legit ID. I wouldn't advise anyone to go to the airport and tell them "I lost my wallet so I have no ID" unless it was the last option.

[gogal2020 0]

You really have to stop talking to morons and idiots.

That and sheesh - try using a little common sense!

Don't be too hard on the lad. He's probably got an American education. He may not even know where Hawaii is, let alone understand that it is a U.S. state, with the same legal status as the other 49 states.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Thanks for the usual ridicule. The only reason I asked a question pertaining to the Hawaii travel is because many laws, especially immigration and visa laws do not make sense in US or you may think you know the answer for the simplest question, but usually it is just a riddle wrapped in a puzzle hidden in a mystery.

I know exactly where Hawaii is, and have no problems with georgraphy and I thank my "Russian" education for that. The only problem are the people I talk to with their ideas and things they heard about that someone told them - and noone said they were correct. The correct answer is just a short research away. Hawaii is not a part of a continetial United States, and is excluded since its an archipelago southwest of North America. So the question arose because it is not a main land, but an island. I do realise that it is the 50th state, but it never hurts to ask.

Thanks,

Mike.

[1HappyGuy 45]

This is all so funny. You need to find some smarter friends. Hawaii is just like any other state. You only need ID to get on the plane. DUH!!!

[akdiver 3]

Glad you know where Hawaii is!

So the question arose because it is not a main land, but an island. I do realise that it is the 50th state, but it never hurts to ask.

So - what, island states are not subject to the equal footing doctrine? What about states like Alaska, that are not islands, but are not contiguous with the rest of the US? What about territories like Puerto Rico? How about Guam? Hint: you don't need a visa to go to any of these places from somewhere else in the U.S.

Bonus question: Alaska is a small island off the coast of California, near Hawaii. True or False.

Cheers!

AKDiver

[slim 1,525]

Glad you know where Hawaii is!

So the question arose because it is not a main land, but an island. I do realise that it is the 50th state, but it never hurts to ask.

So - what, island states are not subject to the equal footing doctrine? What about states like Alaska, that are not islands, but are not contiguous with the rest of the US? What about territories like Puerto Rico? How about Guam? Hint: you don't need a visa to go to any of these places from somewhere else in the U.S.

Bonus question: Alaska is a small island off the coast of California, near Hawaii. True or False.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Ah, but here's a big "what if?" for you....

What if a fiancee or recent wife here on a K-1 goes to Alaska by automobile?

[1HappyGuy 45]

Hey Slim,

Is the car trip partly by ferry from Washington State to Alaska, or are you driving up through Canada. Canada is a foreign country.

[akdiver 3]

Ah, but here's a big "what if?" for you.... What if a fiancee or recent wife here on a K-1 goes to Alaska by automobile?

Not sure if you are posing a serious question or not.

If your wife is arriving here (Alaska) on a K-1 by automobile, the presumably she has already gained entry into Canada through some mechanism. Therefore, when she arrives at the Alaska border, she has a normal K-1 POE there. Rather like a Canadian would I guess.

If you're saying that wife has already arrived somewhere else in the U.S. on a K-1, and you got married, and have yet to receive a PR card, it is unlikely she will be permitted into Canada, therefore will never make it to the Alaska border. However, if she DOES, then will be denied entry into Alaska since she has no valid visa. A passport is not required for U.S. citizens and permanent residents, or Canadian citizens/residents for land travel, but one still has to demonstrate the right to enter the country. Russian nationals demonstrate this right with a passport and a visa, even if coming in by land.

In the above situation, but she has an AP, well, then she can enter without a visa, and probably without a passport, as long as she can prove her identity (presumably with a driver's license).

If she has a PR card, then she does not need a visa, or a passport. The PR card is enough to demonstrate her right to enter the country.

In short, there is really no difference entering the U.S. by auto just because it is Alaska. It's the same as entering the U.S. by auto through any other state.

I am guessing you have in mind the whole, "we don't need a passport for re-entry for land crossings" stuff, but that only applies to people who can otherwise demonstrate their right to enter the country.

As for the ferry:

If you live in the U.S. and will be traveling through Canada in connection with your ferry trip, you will not need a passport or visa. Native-born U.S. citizens (adults, children and infants) should carry a birth certificate which proves their citizenship. Driver's licenses are no longer being accepted as proof of citizenship. U.S. residents who are not citizens should carry their Alien Registration Receipt Card. Canada Customs officials will require travelers to show proof of sufficient funds for the trip.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Edited May 9, 2007 by akdiver

[john_and_marlene 162]

... and it would not be wise to attempt to travel by car to Hawaii, however, you would not need to pass through Canada.

[akdiver 3]

When my wife first came to Alaska, the wife of one of my friends, who is a SCHOOL TEACHER, asked her "did you drive over from Russia?"

Ah yes - the great American education system.

Cheers!

AKDiver

[Turboguy 6]

Actually there was something in the news a couple of days ago about plans to build a tunnel from Alaska to Russia.

[akdiver 3]

Actually there was something in the news a couple of days ago about plans to build a tunnel from Alaska to Russia.

Yeah, the funny thing about that is there is no road or rail road anywhere close to that part of Alaska. They would have to build a road (or railroad) through some 600 miles of Alaska swap to connect to the nearest road (or railroad).

a). That plan is for a railroad, not a road.

B). By the time it gets finished in 30 years, I will likely be dead, and even if I am not, I am unlikely to be living in Alaska (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

Edited May 10, 2007 by akdiver

[Satellite 1]

Actually there was something in the news a couple of days ago about plans to build a tunnel from Alaska to Russia.

Here is a link for the news story straight from Alaska:

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/8811965p-8712739c.html

Ironically the Discovery Channel aired something similar a while back:

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/engin...nteractive.html