Travel to Hawaii

[gogal2020 0]

Hey guys,

I am planning a honeymoon to Hawaii, after the wedding. Someone told me that my new wife, now a citizen of Russia, will need a visa to Hawaii since she's not a US citizen or a permanent resident. I am telling them it's a part of US and all she needs is her russian passport or maybe even just a driver's license. Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks!

Mike.

[kitkat1 5]

You don't need to be a US citizen or Permanent Resident to travel domestically within the US. When foreign visitors travel in the US, they aren't required to show visas - only identification that matches the name on their plane ticket.

[gogal2020 0]

You don't need to be a US citizen or Permanent Resident to travel domestically within the US. When foreign visitors travel in the US, they aren't required to show visas - only identification that matches the name on their plane ticket.

So Hawaii does not count as a "special" state that needs visas? Regular driver's license on our side will do?

Mike.

[kitkat1 5]

You don't need to be a US citizen or Permanent Resident to travel domestically within the US. When foreign visitors travel in the US, they aren't required to show visas - only identification that matches the name on their plane ticket.

So Hawaii does not count as a "special" state that needs visas? Regular driver's license on our side will do?

Mike.

What is special about Hawaii? Hawaii is the 50th state in the U.S. It became a state on August 21, 1959.

The only people who care about your ID are the people at the airport security checking that the name on your ticket matches the name on your ID whether it's a driver's license, passport, etc.

[russ 1]

Same as going anywhere else in the US by air. All you need is a government issued photo ID (which a Russian Passport is). (Actually, you don't even need this if you tell them you lost your wallet.)

It is still a good idea to get a State ID or Learner's Permit (or license) as soon as possible. (You have 30 days here in FL after arriving).

I am planning a honeymoon to Hawaii, after the wedding. Someone told me that my new wife, now a citizen of Russia, will need a visa to Hawaii since she's not a US citizen or a permanent resident. I am telling them it's a part of US and all she needs is her russian passport or maybe even just a driver's license. Does anyone know for sure?

[kitkat1 5]

Same as going anywhere else in the US by air. All you need is a government issued photo ID (which a Russian Passport is). (Actually, you don't even need this if you tell them you lost your wallet.)

You are required to show ID. "I lost my wallet" won't work - if you don't have ID, you won't be flying that day. Check any domestic airline site to read the ID requirements i.e.

Identification Requirements

Passengers 18 years of age or older are required to have government-issued photo identification for travel within the United States

or

Passengers 18 years of age or older are required to have one of the following:

An official photo identification issued by a government authority.

OR

Two forms of identification, one of which must be issued by a government authority.

Acceptable forms of ID include the following:

Valid Driver's License

Military ID

Valid Passport

Company ID card

Credit card

Social Security card

Proof of auto insurance in passenger's name

School ID card

Library card

[gogal2020 0]

Same as going anywhere else in the US by air. All you need is a government issued photo ID (which a Russian Passport is). (Actually, you don't even need this if you tell them you lost your wallet.)

You are required to show ID. "I lost my wallet" won't work - if you don't have ID, you won't be flying that day. Check any domestic airline site to read the ID requirements i.e.

Identification Requirements

Passengers 18 years of age or older are required to have government-issued photo identification for travel within the United States

or

Passengers 18 years of age or older are required to have one of the following:

An official photo identification issued by a government authority.

OR

Two forms of identification, one of which must be issued by a government authority.

Acceptable forms of ID include the following:

Valid Driver's License

Military ID

Valid Passport

Company ID card

Credit card

Social Security card

Proof of auto insurance in passenger's name

School ID card

Library card

Okay, Thanks. I thought so. It's just sometimes what makes sense is not always true, that's why I was worried.

Thanks,

Mike.

[Satellite 1]

I am planning a honeymoon to Hawaii, after the wedding. Someone told me that my new wife, now a citizen of Russia, will need a visa to Hawaii since she's not a US citizen or a permanent resident.

The only time this becomes an issue is if you do one of many cruises to or within Hawaii. Some cruises in order to have an international staff and pay below US minimum wages will make a stop over to a third country while cruising around the Islands usually the Republic of Kiribati. In This context on your return from the third country you will be seeking another admission thus violating your K1 status or abandoning your pending AOS if no AP is present yet.

[akdiver 3]

I am planning a honeymoon to Hawaii, after the wedding. Someone told me that my new wife, now a citizen of Russia, will need a visa to Hawaii since she's not a US citizen or a permanent resident. I am telling them it's a part of US and all she needs is her russian passport or maybe even just a driver's license. Does anyone know for sure?

You really have to stop talking to morons and idiots.

Hawaii is as much of the U.S. as any other state. No one needs a visa to travel from one state to another.

FWIW, My wife and I got married in Hawaii (we live in Alaska). No, she did not need a visa (or even a passport), and no, we didn't even have to go through "passport control" when leaving/entering Alaska or Hawaii.

Sheesh. Morons everywhere you go. The worst part is that they are out-breeding the rest of us.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Edited May 7, 2007 by akdiver

[kitkat1 5]

You really have to stop talking to morons and idiots.

That and sheesh - try using a little common sense!

[akdiver 3]

You really have to stop talking to morons and idiots.

That and sheesh - try using a little common sense!

Don't be too hard on the lad. He's probably got an American education. He may not even know where Hawaii is, let alone understand that it is a U.S. state, with the same legal status as the other 49 states.

Cheers!

AKDiver

[kitkat1 5]

Don't be too hard on the lad. He's probably got an American education. He may not even know where Hawaii is, let alone understand that it is a U.S. state, with the same legal status as the other 49 states.

Cheers!

AKDiver

I realize that - what a sad commentary on the state of eduation in the US.

[russ 1]

You will get a more thorough screening, but in general, you will be allowed to fly home. Since it is not possible to replace your driver's license when you are out-of-state, there really is no choice other than allowing you to fly.

This has happened to me. The bigger problem was not having the credit card that I used to buy the ticket either. It also happened to a friend in Vegas. His hotel room robbed while he was asleep). They let him fly home too. To be extra safe, get a police report (though you don't need it).

In Hawaii, it isn't like you even have the option of taking a train or bus to get home. (Trains require photo ID anyway).

There is no Federal Law, regulation, or even TSA policy requiring you to present a photo ID to pass security. The only change to the FARs (FAA rules) is that pilot's must now carry goverment issued photo IDs when flying. (Pilot Certificates do not have pictures).

The airlines (their own policy) request photo IDs. This has existed before 9/11, and their reason was solely to prevent you from selling your restricted fare ticket to someone else. It has nothing to do with security. As long as you have a boarding pass, this is moot. (Print it on your computer, from the kiosk by keying in your PNR or FF #, etc). The airlines will never ask to see an ID if you do this.

As long as you have a boarding pass, TSA will let you through without photo ID. Two non-photo IDs are specifically allowed as well (say, a library card and gym membership). Expect to be treated like a "selectee."

Here's a link with info: http://www.fodors.com/wire/archives/000928.cfm I would guess that the TSA and congress are both reluctant to make rules as 1) they would get in trouble for breaking them 2) obvious constitutional issues 3) They prefer it to be the airline's problem

If you have a private plane, no worries... No ID necessary (or security, or bagage screening). It is good to be rich

You are required to show ID. "I lost my wallet" won't work - if you don't have ID, you won't be flying that day. Check any domestic airline site to read the ID requirements i.e.

[kitkat1 5]

Russ, everything you wrote is true. And certainly if someone's wallet is stolen and they are in Hawaii and have no other options and they show a police report and have a person to vouch for them, it will be much easier.

I was more addressing your earlier comment of saying "I lost my wallet" which implies you have no ID whatsoever. In that case, it would be a much, much more difficult situation.

I am confused about your comment that you can get through security with just a boarding pass. When I print mine at home, they always still ask for ID at the security point.

[russ 1]

They can ask, but it does not mean you are required to have one.

No ID at all will not prevent you from flying. You will end up with a very thorough search (if we wanted real security, everyone would get this search). If you are mugged out of town, you will not have any ID (ever heard of an armed robbery where the crook takes the time to go through your wallet and hand back 2 forms of ID so you can fly? Didn't think so.)

I think that it is mostly a perception thing - as long as everyone thinks it is an absolute requirement, everyone feels safer.

The police report doesn't really do anything to make us safer. Anyone can fill out a police report and use any name they care for. "Mr Bad Person" could just fill out a report with any name he likes. He is not going to care about the consequences of filing a false report.

Russ, everything you wrote is true. And certainly if someone's wallet is stolen and they are in Hawaii and have no other options and they show a police report and have a person to vouch for them, it will be much easier.

I was more addressing your earlier comment of saying "I lost my wallet" which implies you have no ID whatsoever. In that case, it would be a much, much more difficult situation.

I am confused about your comment that you can get through security with just a boarding pass. When I print mine at home, they always still ask for ID at the security point.