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[Lace morgan 3]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Your spouse had a marriage certificate etc, so sure they will approve, now comes the tricky bit.

Relax watch and see. if you have never thought that, some people has far better experience more than you, you may be kidding.

[Lace morgan 3]

2 minutes ago, Dee elle said:

I am sorry that you feel people here do not understand your situation, are trying to get you to pay for advice, or are giving you wrong advice.. but you are incorrect in these things. 

The decision to approval your immigrant visa application sits with the interviewing officer.. the approval of the I130 and the paperwork by the NVC is not a guarantee that the visa wil be approved.. every visa application that is refused is refused at the intervjew stage and not before.. 

You have been given very good advice by those who have posted ... 

There are different ways to advice people on a situation.Not to confidently say that the person;s case must be denied. Have you ever thought that some questions are made to test some people's abilities to be sure they know what they say to others who need help?

[Boiler 46,411]

One of those wish I could be a fly on the wall scenarios.

[geowrian 22,338]

3 minutes ago, Lace morgan said:

Relax watch and see. if you have never thought that, some people has far better experience more than you, you may be kidding.

USCIS mostly just looks at the legal relationship between the petitioner and beneficiary. That's all they really need to do for the I-130. The CO at the embassy is the one who will evaluate if the marriage is bona fide.

 

If the CO determines that it is not a bona fide marriage, they would kick the I-130 back to USCIS who may then review it further and possibly reaffirm it. But an initial approval of an I-130 goes through very minimal scrutiny compared to how the CO at a high fraud embassy will view it. What the people here are saying is the hard part is yet to come...don't look at the I-130 approval as a sign that the relationship has been even close to fully scrutinized yet. You have several red flags that will draw heavy scrutiny...be sure to be prepared with the best case you can.

[Lace morgan 3]

4 minutes ago, geowrian said:

USCIS mostly just looks at the legal relationship between the petitioner and beneficiary. That's all they really need to do for the I-130. The CO at the embassy is the one who will evaluate if the marriage is bona fide.

 

If the CO determines that it is not a bona fide marriage, they would kick the I-130 back to USCIS who may then review it further and possibly reaffirm it. But an initial approval of an I-130 goes through very minimal scrutiny compared to how the CO at a high fraud embassy will view it. What the people here are saying is the hard part is yet to come...don't look at the I-130 approval as a sign that the relationship has been even close to fully scrutinized yet. You have several red flags that will draw heavy scrutiny...be sure to be prepared with the best case you can.

I agree with your humble opinion. What i am yet to understand here is how people tend to be selfish with information's. Detecting a red flag in a case is one thing, how to remedy the situation is another thing. In all, no one is is talking sincerely on how the case can be in a solid grand. Does it mean I should contact someone privately for a fee?... If that happens to be the case, then this forum has become far from free advice and solutions as it was meant to be.

[Boiler 46,411]

Lots of time together would be a good start.

[Lace morgan 3]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Lots of time together would be a good start.

Does it mean that as matured and as understandable as we are, must we be together in other for a CO to grant an approval?

[Boiler 46,411]

3 minutes ago, Lace morgan said:

Does it mean that as matured and as understandable as we are, must we be together in other for a CO to grant an approval?

In my limited experience it is usual for married people to spend time together.

[Lace morgan 3]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

In my limited experience it is usual for married people to spend time together.

I can't dispute the fact that at least, you gave your sincere opinion. Thanks allot Boiler.

[Lace morgan 3]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Your spouse had a marriage certificate etc, so sure they will approve, now comes the tricky bit.

Couples who met online and have spent almost no time together in person. All are just as legitimate and appropriate when it comes to immigration. Your relationship doesn’t have to look like “normal” for it to count as legitimate for visa purpose. The test comes down to your own – and your partner’s own – understanding of the relationship. You and you alone know if you are in a real relationship.   I will appreciate someone prove me wrong here.

[geowrian 22,338]

56 minutes ago, Lace morgan said:

I agree with your humble opinion. What i am yet to understand here is how people tend to be selfish with information's. Detecting a red flag in a case is one thing, how to remedy the situation is another thing. In all, no one is is talking sincerely on how the case can be in a solid grand. Does it mean I should contact someone privately for a fee?... If that happens to be the case, then this forum has become far from free advice and solutions as it was meant to be.

The only way to overcome relationship/marriage red flags is with relationship evidence: evidence of regular contact, time spent together face-to-face (not just video calls), communication with family members, being beneficiaries for insurance policies, etc. Commingling of finances is good as well, but is not a big one for couples who are abroad.

 

Basically, doing anything a normal married couple does helps overcome red flags. Concentrate on evidence you have, not on what you don't have.

 

5 minutes ago, Lace morgan said:

Couples who met online and have spent almost no time together in person. All are just as legitimate and appropriate when it comes to immigration. Your relationship doesn’t have to look like “normal” for it to count as legitimate for visa purpose. The test comes down to your own – and your partner’s own – understanding of the relationship. You and you alone know if you are in a real relationship.   I will appreciate someone prove me wrong here.

I challenge your assumption. While certainly many couples who meet online do not spend much time physically together prior to marriage, many more do spend more than 1 visit for 1 week together. Those who do only spend a single trip together prior to marriage will generally face tougher scrutiny. That doesn't make them any less legitimate, as you noted, but it is something they look for alongside other aspects when evaluating a case as a whole.

A relationship doesn't have to look "normal". But the the nail that sticks out gets hammered, too.

 

Only both people together know if they are in a real relationship. Even then, neither individual in the relationship can actually know if the other is a scammer. You can have full faith and belief in that person based upon everything you know about them, but they can still be a scammer (there are plenty of cases of this here on VJ you can read about). I'm in no way suggesting that is the case here, but just pointing out that you can only know your own side of the relationship. Pretty much every person who has been scammed believed they were in a real relationship at the time, but it didn't mean it was actually real.

Anyway, having a real relationship is a different issue than qualifying for an immigration benefit. For the immigration benefit, you also need to prove your case.

[Lace morgan 3]

7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

The only way to overcome relationship/marriage red flags is with relationship evidence: evidence of regular contact, time spent together face-to-face (not just video calls), communication with family members, being beneficiaries for insurance policies, etc. Commingling of finances is good as well, but is not a big one for couples who are abroad.

 

Basically, doing anything a normal married couple does helps overcome red flags. Concentrate on evidence you have, not on what you don't have.

 

I challenge your assumption. While certainly many couples who meet online do not spend much time physically together prior to marriage, many more do spend more than 1 visit for 1 week together. Those who do only spend a single trip together prior to marriage will generally face tougher scrutiny. That doesn't make them any less legitimate, as you noted, but it is something they look for alongside other aspects when evaluating a case as a whole.

A relationship doesn't have to look "normal". But the the nail that sticks out gets hammered, too.

 

Only both people together know if they are in a real relationship. Even then, neither individual in the relationship can actually know if the other is a scammer. You can have full faith and belief in that person based upon everything you know about them, but they can still be a scammer (there are plenty of cases of this here on VJ you can read about). I'm in no way suggesting that is the case here, but just pointing out that you can only know your own side of the relationship. Pretty much every person who has been scammed believed they were in a real relationship at the time, but it didn't mean it was actually real.

Anyway, having a real relationship is a different issue than qualifying for an immigration benefit. For the immigration benefit, you also need to prove your case.

Any one who has a case and, is unable to prove the case right has become guilty already or a looser. IS senseless to have a case and not ready to come out of it a winner.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

  USCIS only checks off that you have met the requirement to have a petition filed for you.  They care that your wife has shown that she has preformed a valid marriage.  It is put on the consular officer to determine if the relationship is real and not for immigration purposes because they are the ones that will see you face to face and check the relationship out.  The questions I ask you had bet have a good response for, because the CO will not accept being brushed off like we have to.  It is easy to ignore what we have said but it will surely come back to bite you if you keep this attitude to what is said here.  As far as understanding what goes on from West Africa and the bull that goes on,  I know more than most and I am not afraid to bring it to the light.  

[Lace morgan 3]

12 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

  USCIS only checks off that you have met the requirement to have a petition filed for you.  They care that your wife has shown that she has preformed a valid marriage.  It is put on the consular officer to determine if the relationship is real and not for immigration purposes because they are the ones that will see you face to face and check the relationship out.  The questions I ask you had bet have a good response for, because the CO will not accept being brushed off like we have to.  It is easy to ignore what we have said but it will surely come back to bite you if you keep this attitude to what is said here.  As far as understanding what goes on from West Africa and the bull that goes on,  I know more than most and I am not afraid to bring it to the light.  

What exactly you mean by such attitude? Have I told you that USCIS approval is all that i need to get an IV? Try to be constructive instead of been blankly rude. I have not seen any meaningful contribution from you rather than been rude. Try to follow trend instead of drawing an issue you are not following backward. The latest was a needed solution not scrutiny. if you have nothing to contribute stay aside and read to know.

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