Study: Sanctuary Cities Nearly Double Under Trump’s Stricter Enforcement

[jg121783 3,915]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

You must have me confused with someone else. The regulars here know I oppose illegal immigration. 

So why are you making excuses for those who aid and abet illegal aliens?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

Of course you don’t care how he conducts himself. 

Still got nothing huh 

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1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

So why are you making excuses for those who aid and abet illegal aliens?

Where did I make an excuse? All I have done is comment on Trump. I have never stated that I support sanctuary cities 

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Still got nothing huh 

I have plenty. Life is good. 

[jg121783 3,915]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

Where did I make an excuse? All I have done is comment on Trump. I have never stated that I support sanctuary cities 

I have plenty. Life is good. 

You have been trying to imply it is Trump's fault that these people are breaking the law. Seems like making excuses to me.

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2 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

You have been trying to imply it is Trump's fault that these people are breaking the law. Seems like making excuses to me.

Who is breaking the law here?

 

Last I checked, sanctuary cities are perfectly legal. They aren't breaking any laws.

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33 minutes ago, bcking said:

Who is breaking the law here?

 

Last I checked, sanctuary cities are perfectly legal. They aren't breaking any laws.

Harbouring fugitives?

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Just now, Boiler said:

Harbouring fugitives?

There is no federal law requiring local governments to work with the federal government on this topic.

 

If I'm wrong please give us the specific laws that the cities are breaking.

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4 minutes ago, bcking said:

There is no federal law requiring local governments to work with the federal government on this topic.

 

If I'm wrong please give us the specific laws that the cities are breaking.

Section 1373 of Chapter 8 of the US Code bars any state or local government from passing a policy that prevents government employees from sharing “information pertaining to the immigration status, legal or illegal, of an individual” with federal authorities.

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16 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Section 1373 of Chapter 8 of the US Code bars any state or local government from passing a policy that prevents government employees from sharing “information pertaining to the immigration status, legal or illegal, of an individual” with federal authorities.

https://www.ilrc.org/fact-sheet-sanctuary-policies-and-federal-funding

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2 hours ago, bcking said:

Who is breaking the law here?

 

Last I checked, sanctuary cities are perfectly legal. They aren't breaking any laws.

 

2 hours ago, bcking said:

There is no federal law requiring local governments to work with the federal government on this topic.

 

If I'm wrong please give us the specific laws that the cities are breaking.

Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a crime.

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23 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a crime.

I believe most Sanctuary Cities essentially operate in a "don't ask" format. 

 

So if they don't ask, they won't know. If they don't know, it's not a crime.

 

As for detaining people beyond the limits of the reason they were detained in the first place. That is not a requirement for local municipalities.

 

At the end of the day it's a State's rights issue. Immigration is a federal law issue, so it's the responsibility of the feds. States and local governments don't have to be involved, and can't be forced to be involved. 

 

Don't want to give the federal government too much power, right?

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5 hours ago, bcking said:

I believe most Sanctuary Cities essentially operate in a "don't ask" format. 

 

So if they don't ask, they won't know. If they don't know, it's not a crime.

 

As for detaining people beyond the limits of the reason they were detained in the first place. That is not a requirement for local municipalities.

 

At the end of the day it's a State's rights issue. Immigration is a federal law issue, so it's the responsibility of the feds. States and local governments don't have to be involved, and can't be forced to be involved. 

 

Don't want to give the federal government too much power, right?

So if I am doing 75 in a 55, but don’t know what the speed limit is, have I committed a crime?

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6 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So if I am doing 75 in a 55, but don’t know what the speed limit is, have I committed a crime?

Depends.

 

Is you name Hillary?

 

Did you mean to break the limit?

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15 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So if I am doing 75 in a 55, but don’t know what the speed limit is, have I committed a crime?

Not quite the right analogy.

 

There is no federal law requiring local governments to ask people about their immigration status. So therefore local municipalities don't have to ask. If they don't ask, they have nothing to report.

 

I'm not thinking of a proper analogy right now though. I'm tired.

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24 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So if I am doing 75 in a 55, but don’t know what the speed limit is, have I committed a crime?

Yes