President Backs Out of Iran Deal - will post sanctions

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I actually never suggested that Trump was any better than the media, but it is nice to hear you say that the media isn't above the fray either.  When more people understand that all the media outlets may have a political agenda, maybe, just maybe, people will become more informed.

Or they might decide to turn to even worse information sources, and end up believing that someone like Trump is the answer. 

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I remember you already showing this.  It seems to me that the source was attacked in response.

Let me tell ya and from actual experience, I'll take that source over Al Jazeera any day lol. Israeli sources by and large tend to be a whole lot more credible than Arab sources, take this one for example:

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5256615,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/05/10/israel-strikes-back-at-iranian-aggression-while-iran-lies-and-pretends-it-won-victory.html

 

 

Wackos I tell ya, there were also claims(from media associated with hezbollah) that Israel isn't reporting the true extent of losses or damage(which is what usually happens on the other side, as if it's possible in a small country like Israel where everyone knows everyone and everyone likes to talk), that iron dome failed(which again is false, as the only 4 rockets that would have hit inside israel got intercepted), there's more that I can't even remember right now and can't find everything in English(most is either in Arabic or Hebrew) but I'll post it when I can. All throughout history it's really easy to see it's not the Israeli side that gives unreliable information, but hey I guess my last two sources aren't any good either, they probably made up the made up stuff.

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23 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Let me tell ya and from actual experience, I'll take that source over Al Jazeera any day lol. Israeli sources by and large tend to be a whole lot more credible than Arab sources, take this one for example:

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5256615,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/05/10/israel-strikes-back-at-iranian-aggression-while-iran-lies-and-pretends-it-won-victory.html

 

 

Wackos I tell ya, there were also claims(from media associated with hezbollah) that Israel isn't reporting the true extent of losses or damage(which is what usually happens on the other side, as if it's possible in a small country like Israel where everyone knows everyone and everyone likes to talk), that iron dome failed(which again is false, as the only 4 rockets that would have hit inside israel got intercepted), there's more that I can't even remember right now and can't find everything in English(most is either in Arabic or Hebrew) but I'll post it when I can. All throughout history it's really easy to see it's not the Israeli side that gives unreliable information, but hey I guess my last two sources aren't any good either, they probably made up the made up stuff.

Israel has one of the worlds best intelligence networks.  Of course when you are in close proximity  to several countries, that have vowed to wipe you off the face of the earth, and one in particular that has promised to nuke you, to bring about the 3rd caliphate, it tends to make you take your defense very serious.  

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Oh yeah forgot to mention they also showed fabricated photos of Israelis in shelters, even photoshopped a daytime one from near gaza a few years back to make it look like night time in the north lol. and some other pics god knows where they were even taken from. Ridiculous I tell ya...I do have to make a correction to the fox link, they mentioned S-300 in there, when Russia has in fact not supplied, as of yet, any of them to Syria. Nevertheless most everything else in there was pretty accurate.

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3 hours ago, Póg mo said:

Or they might decide to turn to even worse information sources, and end up believing that someone like Trump is the answer. 

 Not sure anyone can tell what information sources have the worst bias anymore.

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11 hours ago, OriZ said:

there's more that I can't even remember right now and can't find everything in English(most is either in Arabic or Hebrew) but I'll post it when I can. 

There it is:

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5257666,00.html

 

the ####### some people eat up I tell ya.

[OriZ 3,157]

Another example:

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Officially, their governments don't speak. The United Arab Emirates doesn't even formally recognize that Israel exists.

But an impromptu bit of dinner diplomacy between Israel's prime minister and a prominent Emirati ambassador sheds light on one of the worst kept secrets in the Arab world: the quiet ties between Israel and some of its Arab neighbors that are increasingly coming out in the open as they find common cause against mutual foe Iran.

The venue back in March was Cafe Milano, the upscale Georgetown restaurant often frequented by powerful Washingtonians, from Barack Obama to Trump Cabinet members. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in town for an annual pro-Israel policy conference, was midway through dinner with his wife, Sara, when an unexpected request came his way.

By coincidence, the Emirati ambassador to the U.S., Yousef al-Otaiba, was at the restaurant hosting Brian Hook, the State Department's policy planning chief, and a group of U.S. journalists, along with Bahrain's ambassador, Sheikh Abdullah bin Rashed bin Abdullah Al Khalifa.

The Americans dining with Otaiba got wind that Netanyahu was nearby. Word was sent to see if the Israeli would mind making an appearance at their dinner. That request first passed through the restaurant's owner, then one of the journalists, who had walked by Netanyahu's table while on the way to the restroom.

 

Continue here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/news/national/dinner-diplomacy-netanyahu-unusual-run-in-uae-envoy-article-1.3985950

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It's very difficult to be credible when you turn a blind eye to the open air prison that is Gaza. 

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Looks like we may try to recycle the deal for North Korea, or something similar. A little ironic.

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2 hours ago, OriZ said:

Another example:

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Officially, their governments don't speak. The United Arab Emirates doesn't even formally recognize that Israel exists.

But an impromptu bit of dinner diplomacy between Israel's prime minister and a prominent Emirati ambassador sheds light on one of the worst kept secrets in the Arab world: the quiet ties between Israel and some of its Arab neighbors that are increasingly coming out in the open as they find common cause against mutual foe Iran.

The venue back in March was Cafe Milano, the upscale Georgetown restaurant often frequented by powerful Washingtonians, from Barack Obama to Trump Cabinet members. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in town for an annual pro-Israel policy conference, was midway through dinner with his wife, Sara, when an unexpected request came his way.

By coincidence, the Emirati ambassador to the U.S., Yousef al-Otaiba, was at the restaurant hosting Brian Hook, the State Department's policy planning chief, and a group of U.S. journalists, along with Bahrain's ambassador, Sheikh Abdullah bin Rashed bin Abdullah Al Khalifa.

The Americans dining with Otaiba got wind that Netanyahu was nearby. Word was sent to see if the Israeli would mind making an appearance at their dinner. That request first passed through the restaurant's owner, then one of the journalists, who had walked by Netanyahu's table while on the way to the restroom.

 

Continue here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/news/national/dinner-diplomacy-netanyahu-unusual-run-in-uae-envoy-article-1.3985950

Iran's  response to the embassy in Jerusalem. 

 

It will just hasten our goal to annihilate Israel 

 

Pretty much all we need to know about Iran 

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16 hours ago, Póg mo said:

It's very difficult to be credible when you turn a blind eye to the open air prison that is Gaza. 

Talk to Hamas about it, they're the ones solely responsible.

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Every Palestinian death is a pity, including those who were killed on Monday. Those were unnecessary deaths, part of the Nakba culture the Palestinians have been adopting for 70 years now.
 

There was a Nakba. Palestine’s Arabs underwent an expulsion. Tens of millions around the world, including Jews, went through a similar expulsion. But the Palestinians are the only ones who have adopted an ethos of rejectionism, self-victimization, suffering and death. They aren’t looking for their own good. They have become addicted to a Nakba which is fully self-made, from its inception to this very day.
 

Monday’s protest was dedicated to Jerusalem. That’s interesting. Since the occupation in the year 638, Jerusalem was—most of the time—under Muslim rule. They never built a capital there. They never celebrated the city. Nothing.

 

Jerusalem remained under Arab rule from 1949 to 1967. There was no occupation. But they didn’t establish the state of Palestine, and so they didn’t establish a capital either. They left Jerusalem as a marginal, neglected and forsaken city. Until Israel arrived. And then, only then, they remembered how much they care about Jerusalem.

 

It didn’t start on Monday. Musa Alami was one of the most important leaders of the Arabs of Palestine under the British Mandate. He studied in Britain, was a senior commander in the British Mandate, held talks with David Ben-Gurion, was close to the Nazi Haj Amin al-Husseini and was a member of the Arab Higher Committee. Like all other members of the leadership, Alami was against the Partition Plan. He invited the Jordanian army to invade Israel to thwart the existence of a Jewish state. When the Arab plot failed and the refugee problem was created, Alami called on the Arab world to start preparations for a war on the 'Jewish entity.'

 

Alami, who came from a rich aristocratic family, also tried to build an agricultural farm near Jericho to help the desperate refugees somehow. King Abdullah allotted about 5,000 acres for the project. Alami began digging and was joined by several people. They found wells.
 

Alami raised funds and the initiative began taking shape. Refugees found work and a livelihood, and the agricultural crops fed the hungry. The farm began thriving. On the premises, they built a swimming pool, a clinic, a school and accommodation for hundreds of orphans who found refuge from their distress. It was meant to be a wonderful rehabilitation model, in accordance with the international community’s mandate and the mission the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) was assigned with.

 

The thriving farm infuriated the refugees’ public activists and the leaders of the Arab world, apart from Abdullah. Despite Alami’s radical views, they launched a propaganda campaign against him, turning him into a traitor who cooperates with Zionist. Rehabilitating refugees was perceived, even back then, as treason.

 

In the end of 1995, following ongoing incitement, hundreds of rioters invaded Alami’s farm, leaving it in ruins. The arrival of Jordanian policemen prevented murder and rape.
 

If we want to understand why the Palestinian refugees’ descendants have remained in a state of distress, and why Hamas rioters vandalized the strip’s gas supply pipes, and why the Arab world hasn’t bothered to rehabilitate for 70 years now, and why the Palestinians failed to establish a state and had no concern for Jerusalem, we should go back to the Alami farm rioters. It’s the same logic. For 70 years now, the Nakba isn’t just a memory. The Nakba is the ethos. It’s the identity. It’s the lifetime achievement.
 

The Alami story, as part of the refugee saga, appears in Adi Schwartz and Einat Wilf’s new book “The Right of Return War,” which is being published these days. The book is an indictment, not just against the international community, not just against Arab states, but against Israel as well. Because all of them together have made it possible for the monster known as the refugee problem o reach shocking dimensions.
 

In the exact same years that Alami’s farm was active, from 1951 to 1955, $200 million (the equivalent of nearly $2 billion those days) were allotted for refugee development and rehabilitation projects. Only $7 million were used—3.5 percent. They weren’t interested in rehabilitation. UNRWA, which was created to solve the refugee problem, has turned into an agency for the perpetuation of refugeeism.

 

Continue Reading:

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5261338,00.html

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Fourth paragraph from the end perhaps should be "1955," not 1995, if final paragraph shows the correct dates of operation.

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5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Fourth paragraph from the end perhaps should be "1955," not 1995, if final paragraph shows the correct dates of operation.

Typo appears to have been fixed in the original link by now