i-864 help

[mrandmrslee 0]

Hi Everyone! Kinda confused with form i-1864 for the question Part 6 Item 7(Current Individual Annual Income).

My Current Individual Income, My w2 last year was only $21,000 and we are a household of 3 However  I have a second job now and If will add them up I could be around $35,000 range now, should I put my annual income now or still used what I made last year from W2? And one more thing, my co sponsor only made 24000k last year but we are living in the same address, if we add our w2, we are in the $45,000 range, are we above the guideline or should find another sponsor or we are good to go?

Thank you. 

Edited May 3, 2018 by mrandmrslee

[geowrian 22,338]

You would list your current annual income. A tax return shows past income for a w-2 employee (but you still need to provide it, and provide the income from them for the past 3 years on the I-864 in the appropriate spots).

 

You cannot combine income with a joint sponsor.

If they are a family member currently in the same household as you, an I-864A may be utilized instead of having them as a joint sponsor. The I-864A household agreement will let you combine incomes.

Edited May 3, 2018 by geowrian

[mrandmrslee 0]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

You would list your current annual income. A tax return shows past income for a w-2 employee (but you still need to provide it, and provide the income from them for the past 3 years on the I-864 in the appropriate spots).

 

You cannot combine income with a joint sponsor.

If they are a family member currently in the same household as you, an I-864A may be utilized instead of having them as a joint sponsor. The I-864 household agreement will let you combine incomes.

Thanks! To confirm, the answer in item 7 is not my 2017 w2? Right? 

Yup, I had them filled out the I-864a however she only made $24,000 last year, is that alright?

And one more thing, My mom will be the co-sponsor, does my dad still need to provide the 1-864a even if we will not use his income?

[geowrian 22,338]

6 minutes ago, mrandmrslee said:

Thanks! To confirm, the answer in item 7 is not my 2017 w2? Right? 

Yup, I had them filled out the I-864a however she only made $24,000 last year, is that alright?

And one more thing, My mom will be the co-sponsor, does my dad still need to provide the 1-864a even if we will not use his income?

Correct. As a W-2 employee, your current income from that job is whatever your currently make. Your annual income is what you are expected to earn at that job in a 12 month period (not what you made last tax year).

If she qualifies to use an I-864A (see page 1 of the I-864A instructions), then her income can be included with your annual household income. I'm assuming this is your mother, so as long as you live with her then it sounds like she meets those requirements. She needs to provide supporting evidence of her income as well.

An I-864A from her spouse is not strictly required, but generally if your parents filed taxes jointly then they will want to see an I-864A from the spouse as well.

[mrandmrslee 0]

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Correct. As a W-2 employee, your current income from that job is whatever your currently make. Your annual income is what you are expected to earn at that job in a 12 month period (not what you made last tax year).

If she qualifies to use an I-864A (see page 1 of the I-864A instructions), then her income can be included with your annual household income. I'm assuming this is your mother, so as long as you live with her then it sounds like she meets those requirements. She needs to provide supporting evidence of her income as well.

An I-864A from her spouse is not strictly required, but generally if your parents filed taxes jointly then they will want to see an I-864A from the spouse as well.

Thank you so much! Everything is clear to me now. My wife makes it more confusing as what her friends told her about that item in the form. 

[pushbrk 13,260]

6 hours ago, mrandmrslee said:

Hi Everyone! Kinda confused with form i-1864 for the question Part 6 Item 7(Current Individual Annual Income).

My Current Individual Income, My w2 last year was only $21,000 and we are a household of 3 However  I have a second job now and If will add them up I could be around $35,000 range now, should I put my annual income now or still used what I made last year from W2? And one more thing, my co sponsor only made 24000k last year but we are living in the same address, if we add our w2, we are in the $45,000 range, are we above the guideline or should find another sponsor or we are good to go?

Thank you. 

Let's back up a minute.  If your current income is $35,000 and it sounds like it is, you don't need a household member or joint sponsor.

 

Take what you earn from each job, gross per pay period, multiply that number by the number of pay periods in a full year, add the total per year from each job together and that is your current income.  Document that with copies of your current pay stubs.  ONLY if that is not enough would you obligate a joint sponsor or household member.

 

Tax returns and W2 forms are about the past.  An "Employed" person NEVER qualifies based on the past.

[mrandmrslee 0]

59 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Let's back up a minute.  If your current income is $35,000 and it sounds like it is, you don't need a household member or joint sponsor.

 

Take what you earn from each job, gross per pay period, multiply that number by the number of pay periods in a full year, add the total per year from each job together and that is your current income.  Document that with copies of your current pay stubs.  ONLY if that is not enough would you obligate a joint sponsor or household member.

 

Tax returns and W2 forms are about the past.  An "Employed" person NEVER qualifies based on the past.

Thank you for the response. Are they going to base the poverty guideline from my current income?

[pushbrk 13,260]

3 minutes ago, mrandmrslee said:

Thank you for the response. Are they going to base the poverty guideline from my current income?

The poverty guideline IS what it IS.  You "qualify" based on your "current income".  Nevertheless, it is a judgment call.  If you do not qualify, there is no judgment.  If your current income exceeds the minimum requirement, then they will look at the totality of circumstances and make a judgment call.  How do the 2015 and 2017 tax returns look?

[mrandmrslee 0]

Just now, pushbrk said:

The poverty guideline IS what it IS.  You "qualify" based on your "current income".  Nevertheless, it is a judgment call.  If you do not qualify, there is no judgment.  If your current income exceeds the minimum requirement, then they will look at the totality of circumstances and make a judgment call.  How do the 2015 and 2017 tax returns look?

It does't look good either. 

[pushbrk 13,260]

5 minutes ago, mrandmrslee said:

It does't look good either. 

Then you would be wise to have a joint sponsor's affidavit ready to submit at the interview, but I would not submit one to NVC.

[mrandmrslee 0]

Just now, pushbrk said:

Then you would be wise to have a joint sponsor's affidavit ready to submit at the interview, but I would not submit one to NVC.

Our case got expedited, so my wife will have to provide it on her interview. Thank you for the help.

[pushbrk 13,260]

7 minutes ago, mrandmrslee said:

Our case got expedited, so my wife will have to provide it on her interview. Thank you for the help.

Then I would have her submit only your financial package unless they ask for the joint sponsor.  She could SAY, "I have a joint sponsor if needed".

[mrandmrslee 0]

32 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Then I would have her submit only your financial package unless they ask for the joint sponsor.  She could SAY, "I have a joint sponsor if needed".

I'll prepare forms then with joint sponsor and form for me alone. 

[pushbrk 13,260]

2 hours ago, mrandmrslee said:

I'll prepare forms then with joint sponsor and form for me alone. 

Well you need to form for you alone no matter what.  There is no difference in your form or the joint sponsors form either way.  

[Ryanmaria2018 195]

12 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Then I would have her submit only your financial package unless they ask for the joint sponsor.  She could SAY, "I have a joint sponsor if needed".

I am hearing that the Philippine embassy isn't accepting joint sponsors on a K-1 visa so that could be a problem there. Also IF they don't ask for the financial affidavit of support DO NOT offer that information as I'm hearing they don't ask for it all the time and haven't been for the past 2 or 3 years probably because we do have to file the I-864 affidavit of support form after the marriage, however do prepare your I-134 documents just in case of course. However it looks like your second job is your saving grace and so I could be wrong but they may look at what you make now vs. the past 3 years so honestly, I would not sweat it as pushbrk said earlier.

Edited May 4, 2018 by RyanMaria 2018
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