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I have two parts to this post that I would really love some input on and personal experiences would be hugely appreciated! I've easily spent hours upon hours reading through similar accounts on this forum but I'm still having anxiety over it all so sorry for the repeating topics; I've been struggling a bit trying to find some solid answers for our situation. 

 

1) I'm Canadian and planning to marry an American. We're aiming for the CR-1 over the K1. The current plan is to marry in the US. This is the best way to go about it in our current situation. My first question is, when entering at the POE (airport for me), is it best to simply say that your intention is to get married? My plan is to go in, marry, and return to Canada very soon after and I have the return ticket. And as far as I can see this is perfectly legal. I have zero intention of staying. However I'm still SUPER nervous about being turned away at the border if I say that my intent is to marry (and come back, of course.) 

 

For more background: I've visited the US many many times to visit my SO over many years now and have never been denied entry, never overstayed, never had major issues at the border (just extra questions a few times). So everything is good on that front. I'm just so nervous for this particular case with the marriage happening. 

 

I've read other opinions on the forums that it's perfectly fine to say that you're simply visiting and that you don't necessarily have to specify that your intent is to marry unless they ask further. But I'm not sure if this is a smart option as I would like to be as honest/upfront as possible and I want to have zero issues later on with the CR-1 applications. I just don't want to mess anything up. I've stated in previous visits that I'm visiting my SO, which was true. So is it better/okay to say this again this time? 

 

2) My other concern is that I'm not sure I have super solid proof of ties back home. I'm used to these questions in all my previous visits when I crossed the border, and I usually just talk about our relationship, our jobs, my intent to return, etc. I do spend the majority of the year in Canada and only visit 1-2 times a year. However I don't personally own property and am self employed; so I'm not quite sure how to provide solid proof should they ask for more.   

 

I'm just extra nervous that they may require more proof if I state that my intent is to marry there and return. Right now all I can think of as "proof" is just my word, my return ticket, discussing our plans on handling the CR-1 as soon as we marry, and hoping that the proof on my passport over the years of always returning to Canada is enough proof. Is there anything else that I can provide? 

 

Anything else I should keep in mind or be aware of? Sorry as I may be overthinking a lot of this! But I hope others can relate to the stresses of these things. I really don't want to mess up any part of this process and want to be as prepared as possible.

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You only have to answer the questions that are asked. If you are asked "are you getting married?" you must not lie. I married on a visit. It's not as scary as it sounds. Those of us from low-fraud countries with a good history of returning on time don't usually have any issues. I always said I was visiting my boyfriend/fiancé/husband. I don't follow the school of thought that recommends saying you're going sightseeing or shopping. That's an insult to the intelligence of the CBP officer who can see that you have entered, alone, numerous times, staying at a residential address, not a hotel, miles away from any tourist sights. And even if your partner lives in somewhere with a lot of tourists such as Manhattan, just how many times do people think they can convince CBP that they just have to see the Statue of Liberty again, even though they were there just three months ago. They know what's going on. They ask you the questions to see if you'll lie, not because they don't know the answers. 

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Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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On 5/1/2018 at 8:40 PM, JFH said:

You only have to answer the questions that are asked. If you are asked "are you getting married?" you must not lie. I married on a visit. It's not as scary as it sounds. Those of us from low-fraud countries with a good history of returning on time don't usually have any issues. I always said I was visiting my boyfriend/fiancé/husband. I don't follow the school of thought that recommends saying you're going sightseeing or shopping. That's an insult to the intelligence of the CBP officer who can see that you have entered, alone, numerous times, staying at a residential address, not a hotel, miles away from any tourist sights. And even if your partner lives in somewhere with a lot of tourists such as Manhattan, just how many times do people think they can convince CBP that they just have to see the Statue of Liberty again, even though they were there just three months ago. They know what's going on. They ask you the questions to see if you'll lie, not because they don't know the answers. 

Thank you for your input! Your reply is pretty much the gist of what I've read through the forums. I am always very clear that I'm visiting my SO; so I assume they will likely have a record of that, and I'm thinking (hoping) that it should be fine to say that again in this case.

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Just my 2 cents... I would probably tell them about the wedding as part of the total plan. "I'm going down to get married, then returning on the 19th (or whatever) and we'll be filing the I-130 for my CR-1 visa." If you make it clear that you know what the rules are and you have every intention of following them, you will likely not show as many signs of stress (which might read to the officer as lying.)


If they see that you're nervous (because you're mentally editing your answers) they might think you're lying. If they ask further questions and you have to tell them you're getting married, they might wonder why you didn't just say that in the first place, unless you were intending to stay illegally.

 

I know that current wisdom is not to offer information - just answer the questions. I just think that in this case, giving them more information (that proves that you know and are following the rules) might be the best bet.

 

Is your timeline updated?


Oath Ceremony Dec 14th, 2018 I am finally a citizen and done with USCIS for good!

 

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa:                            

Marriage: 2013-08-05                                   I-130 Sent: 2013-10-07                                                 I-130 NOA1: 2013-10-09                               

I-130 transferred to VSC: 2014-03-12        I-130 NOA2: 2014-03-24                                              NVC Received: 2014-04-07 

Case Number and IIN: 2014-05-05             Sent ENROLL email for EP: 2014-05-06                    Gave email addresses to NVC: 2014-05-08             

DS261 submitted: 2014-05-09                    AOS invoiced and paid: 2014-05-12                           DS261 re-submitted - GRRRR! 2014-05-21               

ENROLL conf. email: 2014-06-05               Submitted AOS documents:2014-06-08                    IV fee email received: 2014-06-23 

IV fee available and paid: 2014-06-24       DS260  submitted: 2014-06-26                                   Case Complete: 2014-07-31                                       

Interview: 2014-09-19 APPROVED!!!          Visa in Hand: 2014-09-24 (Loomis depot)                POE (Pac Hwy Crossing, BC) 2014-11-08 

SSN Card arrived (approx) 2014-11-26     Green Card arrived (approx) 2014-12-17 

Removal of Conditions - I-751:

I-751 Mailed (USPS) Aug 10, 2016             NOA: August 17, 2016 (received Aug 23)                  Biometrics Letter Sent: Sept 23, 2016

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: Sept 30, 2016     Walk-In Biometrics Oct 6, 2016                                    Infopass for I-551 stamp Aug 17, 2017   

Service Request: Dec 27, 2017                   SR Response: Jan 10, 2018 (no prediction)              Senator Inquiry: Jan 5, 2018

Senator Resp: Jan 8, 2018 (60 days)         Service Request 2: Mar 8 2018                                   Senator Inquiry 2: Mar 9 2018

SR 2 Response: Mar 12 (security checks) Senator Response 2: Mar 13, 2018                            Approval (via phone!): Mar 14, 2018

New Green Card Arrived: Mar 22, 2018

Naturalization - N-400: 

Submitted N-400 Online: Feb 4, 2018       Denied for Payment Failure: Feb 8, 2018                     Resubmitted N-400 Online Feb 8, 2018

NOA: Feb 8, 2018                                          Biometrics: Feb 26, 2018                                                Interview: Nov 2,2018 (approved)

Oath: Dec 14, 2018

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
Timeline
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Moved from What Visa Do I Need - Family Based Immigration forum to General Immigration-Related Discussion.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

 
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