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We just had our interview at the Frankfurt office and were unfortunately, put on HOLD. Well, it wasn’t approved because of an unusual case. But thankfully, the unsual case can be resolved. Just wondering everyone’s thoughts and/or if someone else has had to go this route. The consular office was very supportive and helpful, so we feel positive about it. Here’s what’s putting our case on hold: 

 

My husband’s father was born in the US, but only lived there until the age of 5. Born to German parents who were living in the US at the time. Since my father-in-law has US and German citizenship, we need to prove that my husband is not able to receive citizenship through him. We need a No-Claim to Citizenship letter/notorization from the Consular. He has no claim as his father doesn’t meet requirements to pass it on. But my knowledge isn’t 100% on how this is determined, US gov websites basically tell me no though. 

 

Has as anyone else needed to prove they can’t receive citizenship? 

 

In the heat of the moment, I never thought to ask, but I have no idea how much this “letter” will cost. And I can’t find any info. Anyone know? 

 

Thank you 😊 

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I have seen it a few times, but with young children, basically they applied for a CRBA refused and carried on.

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1 hour ago, MRSW1709 said:

Has as anyone else needed to prove they can’t receive citizenship?

Yes, and if you need detailed information on how to continue after its denial, you can find it here:

 

1 hour ago, MRSW1709 said:

In the heat of the moment, I never thought to ask, but I have no idea how much this “letter” will cost. And I can’t find any info. Anyone know?

 

They don't charge extra for the letter, but you will have to pay the CRBA application fee. Just make sure not to pay the passport application fee at the same time, since you would not get the money back.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I have seen it a few times, but with young children, basically they applied for a CRBA refused and carried on.

The consular gave us the info we need, that another office needs to provide. A Letter of No-Claim. They made it sound like all we needed to do was make an appointment, describe how he doesn’t meet the citizenship requirement, and then they’ll issue the no claim letter. Then we just send a photocopy to them and it’s approved. 

But I’ve found no info on this or how much this might cost...? 

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6 minutes ago, Mark88 said:

Yes, and if you need detailed information on how to continue after its denial, you can find it here:

 

 

They don't charge extra for the letter, but you will have to pay the CRBA application fee. Just make sure not to pay the passport application fee at the same time, since you would not get the money back.

Thank you for the extra details and links. Your story is extraordinary! 

 

One question though, we told the immigration officer that his father never lived longer than 5 years in the US. He was born there and after 5 years, moved back to Germany indefinitely. Also, my husband is obviously over 18. Doesn’t that disqualify him immediately? I’m just confused by all of this as they should have said something before the final step and all the time and $$$ invested. 

 

Do you file the CRBA at the office? Just hoping we don’t need to involve his parents. 

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I misunderstood your case, I thought it is concerning a child under 18. All what I wrote above won't help you in this case, you will have to clear it directly with the consulate or another member might have the info for you.

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Just now, Mark88 said:

I misunderstood your case, I thought it is concerning a child under 18. All what I wrote above won't help you in this case, you will have to clear it directly with the consulate or another member might have the info for you.

Thank you though for taking the time to write and help!

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7 hours ago, jan22 said:

Talk with the American Citizen Services unit at the consulate and ask them their process for this..

I’m trying to. I already sent an email on Monday.  It was a holiday yesterday and it was eating at me. Called this morning already and everyone is busy but I can “try” back in the afternoon. 

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If you're lucky, you'll get someone on the phone. Usually no one that can help you though. You are better off writing them an email and hope for a response within a week or two. Don't count on getting anything fast.

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13 hours ago, Mark88 said:

If you're lucky, you'll get someone on the phone. Usually no one that can help you though. You are better off writing them an email and hope for a response within a week or two. Don't count on getting anything fast.

I had luck! I emailed already on Monday and received a response this afternoon (yesterday was a national holiday). Plus I called, albeit 15 times to finally get through, and who I spoke with was actually extremely helpful. All we need to do is fill out a form to apply for a passport, go to the appointment, it will be denied, and the no-claim letter will be issued. I hope it’s so uncomplicated. 

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