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Hi guys, I'm a December 2016 filler and based on my rough estimate, December fillers would start seeing a movement in May. However I have an urgent travel to do leaving in 2 days and coming back in exactly 2 weeks from now. But here is where paranoia and anxiety of a long wait kicks in, it makes me sick to my stomach thinking about all "what ifs" if I won't be allowed back if my petition gets denied while I'm gone. I haven't seen much reports of straight up denials, only if something is wrong with a petition, and since I filled it out myself without legal advice im worry if I forget a signature at the right spot/or checking the right box, or whatever that could cause a denial. I'm so exhausted from racing my thoughts like this and prolong purchasing plane tickets so I decided to share it with you guys as I'm not 100% sure my concerns are even legit anymore. I would love to hear your optinion if it's indeed a risky adventure to leave when I expect to start seeing a movement for my month fillers or I'm simply loosing it because of anxiety. 

 

P.s. If there is no issues with my petition itself, I tend to believe it would be approved with all amount of evidences I sent. 

 

I'm sorry if I'm spreading worrys I usually try to encourage everyone but now it's me who's in feelings. 

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What if you get hit by a truck on your way to the airport?

It has been filed, it will be dealt with when it is dealt with - stressing over it won’t change that in any way. 

You will drive yourself mad - been there done that got the t shirts and many useless service request responses.

 

 

Yes, you can be issued a straight denial without an RFE - I can personally attest to that as I have never received an RFE

It would also be unusual to be issued a denial without an interview first but it is possible.

If you receive an interview notice you generally get around a months notice - sign up for USPS informed delivery and have someone able to check your mail if neccessary. You can’t really do anything more at this point.

 

 

Regardless, as a LPR you are protected by the law and you only cease to be a LPR after a final order of removal by an immigration judge , despite the wording of the denial letters.

Remember that an immigration judge is the only one who can terminate ones LPR status, and a LPR is entitled to a hearing with one - and also to appeal that decision if unhappy with it .

If denied and a hearing pending you are also entitled to proof of your status until such a hearing has taken place.

 

If you have a valid stamp and are presenting as a LPR you would be permitted re-entry to the US, even if denied when overseas.

You could also file another I-751 immediately if you receive a denial, which puts you back into full I-751 pending status 

 

 

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted
40 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

What if you get hit by a truck on your way to the airport?

It has been filed, it will be dealt with when it is dealt with - stressing over it won’t change that in any way. 

You will drive yourself mad - been there done that got the t shirts and many useless service request responses.

 

 

Yes, you can be issued a straight denial without an RFE - I can personally attest to that as I have never received an RFE

It would also be unusual to be issued a denial without an interview first but it is possible.

If you receive an interview notice you generally get around a months notice - sign up for USPS informed delivery and have someone able to check your mail if neccessary. You can’t really do anything more at this point.

 

 

Regardless, as a LPR you are protected by the law and you only cease to be a LPR after a final order of removal by an immigration judge , despite the wording of the denial letters.

Remember that an immigration judge is the only one who can terminate ones LPR status, and a LPR is entitled to a hearing with one - and also to appeal that decision if unhappy with it .

If denied and a hearing pending you are also entitled to proof of your status until such a hearing has taken place.

 

If you have a valid stamp and are presenting as a LPR you would be permitted re-entry to the US, even if denied when overseas.

You could also file another I-751 immediately if you receive a denial, which puts you back into full I-751 pending status 

 

 

Mindthegap, thank you so much for your input! Yes, the wording about status termination is scary especially when paired with the CBP statement that entry is not granted to anyone who's not a citizen, LPR includingly. 

I do have informed delivery and all I see there so far is a mail spam. 

Was just trying to weight out the risk of leaving now compare to rescheduling a trip for 2 months but then again, who knows when it's gets approved or any action taken. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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35 minutes ago, Scazy said:

Mindthegap, thank you so much for your input! Yes, the wording about status termination is scary especially when paired with the CBP statement that entry is not granted to anyone who's not a citizen, LPR includingly. 

I do have informed delivery and all I see there so far is a mail spam. 

Was just trying to weight out the risk of leaving now compare to rescheduling a trip for 2 months but then again, who knows when it's gets approved or any action taken. 

Do you have the I-551 stamp in your passport?

05-18-2022: Filed N-400 online. Received online NOA and Biometrics re-use.

06-03-2022: Interview scheduled (online notice).

06-10-2022: Interview letter received via USPS.

07-11-2022: Naturalization Interview

Click here for my full timeline of K1, AOS, ROC, and Naturalization
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Posted
25 minutes ago, sweetswinks said:

Do you have the I-551 stamp in your passport?

I do, it's valid for many months to come. I was just anxious leaving the country during estimated month of processing application (May-June) even though it's just for 2 weeks...like what if it's get denied while I'm gone because I haven't filled it out correctly or something else. It's a gray area if i551 would be sufficient for re enter in that case (well at least to me it as) 

 
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