NOIR

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

If you believe the CO lied about all those things  - which is quite an assertion-  I believe you can make an official complaint through the office of the inspector general. 

[TNJ17 1,329]

These are pretty basic questions. Sounds like a fake relationship for immigration purposes to me. 

[antwiwaa 3]

3 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

If you believe the CO lied about all those things  - which is quite an assertion-  I believe you can make an official complaint through the office of the inspector general. 

Thank you very much.  But we also want to try to rebut it first. Before we can think of any other action to be taken.. all we want is to be together.

[antwiwaa 3]

2 hours ago, TNJ17 said:

These are pretty basic questions. Sounds like a fake relationship for immigration purposes to me. 

Thankx for responding but it isn't, ,I wud not be in that FAKE relationship for 4 years n still counting, ,wat at all will be out there to put my life on hold for if not for love? I work n live peaceful here.. all I want is to seek for ur advice to be with my husband but I think I'm asking for too much ryt.. 

[antwiwaa 3]

10 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

The not knowing details about initial meeting, petioners job and life in US, nor how they coomunicatr are huge red flags.

 

i agree that this does not sound like a solid relationship. 

How can I go for a spousal visa interview n tell a CO that I don't have any idea how and wen I met a man I married...even if I married for visa, at least I will plan something ahead bcoz these are basics... I kept asking wat the reason for my denial, through out these months I think through the questions n didn't find y I was denied only to be told I cudnt tell when I met my husband. I don't know y they lie, ,but that's not wat l am seeking, ,,I'm still seeking for a way to stay together with my husband. We were thinking of him moving back home, but for how long can he stay without working. 

This journey has been the most trying time of my life, ,but I believe we will win. ( pls don't mind my writing all these things ok,  I jus want someone to hear me).

[ms_bobdog 501]

7 hours ago, antwiwaa said:

Yes it looks like it because for watever reason that's wat they wrote to us..

I swear on my own life that I answered all these questions more...even if it was a sham or some sort of staged marriage,don't u think I will l can memorize these basic answers?

Common even a basic school student can do that. I'm only askn for wat to do...not for ur judgment pls,,,I wish u understand wat this waiting makes me feel.. we have no child yet n we're thinking of him relocating back home so we can try.. U can pls offer an idea or to stop judging pls.

Because your first post didn't indicate what YOUR response was, so we assumed the beneficiary was unable to answer basic questions. That aside, I have read similar posts about this (i.e. beneficiary could answer the questions but CO said otherwise). I cannot remember what the resolution was. Other members who remember can probably chime in here.

[JackandRed 16]

A couple can marry outside the US and it is recognized. 

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

NOIR is intent to revoke not like NOID which is intent to deny

you can respond to a NOID

NOIR requires an appeal

appeal there is a fee and about a year to hear decision / in this case the NOIR will probably be upheld as the responses are weak or missing

i would reapply and send a letter with new application to address these issues

at a new interview you will need to be more competent and have more confidence with your responses

get to know the person 

get to know the life in the US

get to know each other

that means everything / if you knew things,  your responses did not show it 

real relationship means showing love,  understanding and a lot of patience

show you are making future plans (studying or working  in the US)

 

[Lemonslice 4,860]

Would it be possible for him to move to you?

[Mr.Jose 64]

16 hours ago, antwiwaa said:

Hello friends, pls share to your ideas with us as we gather evidence to rebut this noir. Here are the claims

1.relationship between the two parties is based on circumventing the immigration laws

FACTS

1. The petitioner and beneficiary married on 06/03/14 in ghana, the petitioner divorced his spouse on 01/14/11 in ghana despite the fact that the petitioner n his ex wife were lawful permanent residents of the US that time

2. The beneficiary was unable to provide dates and times of their initial Meetings

3. The beneficiary was unable to give detailed info abt petitioners job

4. Beneficiary cud not provide any info on how she contacts the petitioner 

5. Beneficiary cud not provide any substantive details abt petitionerso life in the US despite the claim she talks with him everyday. 

What evidence do you suggest we add to these claims from CO. Thnx 

So the petitioner already petitioned for his ex wife long time ago? Maybe there’s some history between petitioner and his ex wife that you don’t know about. Did he petition via K1 or CR1 for his first wife?

 

I strongly suggest getting an experience immigration lawyer that specifically deals with Ghana.

Edited April 29, 2018 by Mr.Bob

[geowrian 22,337]

4 hours ago, adil-rafa said:

NOIR is intent to revoke not like NOID which is intent to deny

you can respond to a NOID

NOIR requires an appeal

This is incorrect.

A NOID is issued before the petition is approved. You are presented with a notice they they intend to deny the petition, but they provide an opportunity to rebut their reasoning to do so before they actually deny it. If denied, you would either file a new petition or an appeal (or MTR).

A NOIR occurs after the petition has been approved but they have reason to believe it is invalid, and therefore they intend to revoke that approval. You are presented with an opportunity to rebut their reasoning for doing so. If it is still revoked, you would need to file a new petition or an appeal (or MTR).

 

Basically, the difference is when they deny it...NOID is on the initial filing and NOIR is after approval (usually when returned by the embassy).

Edited April 29, 2018 by geowrian

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

9 hours ago, geowrian said:

This is incorrect.

A NOID is issued before the petition is approved. You are presented with a notice they they intend to deny the petition, but they provide an opportunity to rebut their reasoning to do so before they actually deny it. If denied, you would either file a new petition or an appeal (or MTR).

A NOIR occurs after the petition has been approved but they have reason to believe it is invalid, and therefore they intend to revoke that approval. You are presented with an opportunity to rebut their reasoning for doing so. If it is still revoked, you would need to file a new petition or an appeal (or MTR).

 

Basically, the difference is when they deny it...NOID is on the initial filing and NOIR is after approval (usually when returned by the embassy).

She said she got a NOID 

that is what i got 

i had to do an appeal

it took a year

i won my appeal and it said marriage bona fida 

reapply

that is what i am telling from my own experience

[antwiwaa 3]

15 hours ago, adil-rafa said:

NOIR is intent to revoke not like NOID which is intent to deny

you can respond to a NOID

NOIR requires an appeal

appeal there is a fee and about a year to hear decision / in this case the NOIR will probably be upheld as the responses are weak or missing

i would reapply and send a letter with new application to address these issues

at a new interview you will need to be more competent and have more confidence with your responses

get to know the person 

get to know the life in the US

get to know each other

that means everything / if you knew things,  your responses did not show it 

real relationship means showing love,  understanding and a lot of patience

show you are making future plans (studying or working  in the US)

 

Thank u very much...I very much appreciate ur response.

[antwiwaa 3]

12 hours ago, Mr.Bob said:

So the petitioner already petitioned for his ex wife long time ago? Maybe there’s some history between petitioner and his ex wife that you don’t know about. Did he petition via K1 or CR1 for his first wife?

 

I strongly suggest getting an experience immigration lawyer that specifically deals with Ghana.

Petitioner migrated to the US with the ex wife in 2008. Both remarried after their divorce.

[antwiwaa 3]

16 hours ago, ms_bobdog said:

Because your first post didn't indicate what YOUR response was, so we assumed the beneficiary was unable to answer basic questions. That aside, I have read similar posts about this (i.e. beneficiary could answer the questions but CO said otherwise). I cannot remember what the resolution was. Other members who remember can probably chime in here.

Bcuz I actually didn't like this blame game,,,I wanted solutions not to accuse others,,,at the end of the day it's our life not his.  Anyway, tnx for responding again