need help for the photos evidence in-person meeting

[bakphx1 789]

You only have to prove you were together in person.   Your pictures should be good. Especially with family and friends.  That shows you are involved in each other's lives. 

 

His plane tickets should be fine.  People may show a few pages of texts to show that they communicate regularly.  A sample of a conversation is fine.  They want to see the dates, not the content of the conversation. 

 

Having lots of pictures is very good.  Don't worry. 😊

[Diane and Chris 651]

15 hours ago, x_driven_x said:

The US citizen must show every page, including blank pages, of their passport that shows the passport stamps of going to the country you met in within the last two years.

I don’t think this is true. You could show airline tickets instead, right?  

[bakphx1 789]

2 hours ago, Diane and Chris said:

I don’t think this is true. You could show airline tickets instead, right?  

Yes.   I included the passport stamps but who knows if they were ever looked at.  No instructions say you have to.  The blank pages, not at all. 

 

The tickets should be fine.  Only in a rare case where they might think the document is faked or something will they require more.  But tickets and pictures are normally enough. 

[x_driven_x 1,778]

3 hours ago, Diane and Chris said:

I don’t think this is true. You could show airline tickets instead, right?  

It's all about showing an abundance of proof, building the strongest case you can. I'm not sure why so many people don't want to send a few extra sheets that can significantly increase the strength of their package.

 

Photos can't be determined if they were within 2 years.

Airline receipts don't mean you actually got on the plane, it just means you paid for tickets.

Airline boarding passes are indeed better, they show you went to that airport, but they don't actually show you were admitted to the country. 

Your passport stamps are the strongest thing you have to show that you went to their country, were admitted for X amount of days and had the opportunity to meet them, or met in the same country if you both show your stamps.

 

Just the other day someone posted a DENIAL letter on here, I think in September or October thread, where they only sent the pages of the passport that had stamps and not the identification page. The reason for sending the entire passport is to show "hey, this is everything, I didn't just copy the pages with stamps out of someone else's book" The blank pages themselves don't sure anything, but they show your complete picture of your passport, from front to back. 

 

Many of you don't pay for a lawyer, and that's fine... but I did... and she's never had a K1 visa application denied and noone out of 10+ people I know that have used her have even had to do an RFE, so I tend to trust her judgement when she tells me what to include and why it's important... but hey, that's OK... YOU send what you want to... I like to be thorough and not leave any room for wiggle room, that doesn't mean I sent 600 pages in, I sent what is the most strongest to check off all boxes.

 

 

 

 

 

[carla s 4]

I think that is better to send all the pages of the passports. I went in the USA for to visit him 3 times in the last 2 years and the last time I stayed there 89 days. He went in Italy one time for three weeks. We don't have hotel's room bills becuase he lived in my house and I lived in his house. We have some tickets about museums but we don't have any pictures together at the museums. We didn't know that we need all that pictures and everything for to get marry. We thought that it was enought to have the documents about our divorces. 

[Alabamak1 688]

6 minutes ago, carla s said:

I think that is better to send all the pages of the passports. I went in the USA for to visit him 3 times in the last 2 years and the last time I stayed there 89 days. He went in Italy one time for three weeks. We don't have hotel's room bills becuase he lived in my house and I lived in his house. We have some tickets about museums but we don't have any pictures together at the museums. We didn't know that we need all that pictures and everything for to get marry. We thought that it was enought to have the documents about our divorces. 

like @x_driven_x said...it's the variety and abundance of evidence that makes the case for no RFE and approval.  and i hear the same thing about the lawyer here over and over again. If you choose not to use one, so be it. Not required, but don't bash on the one who do, because they want some actual help when they do use one. I used one for my third time and she is absolutely A++, different immigration needs. Just once i used this other lawyer and he was incompetent enough and my naturalization was delayed. He fixed it, but I will never use him again

[carla s 4]

6 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

like @x_driven_x said...it's the variety and abundance of evidence that makes the case for no RFE and approval.  and i hear the same thing about the lawyer here over and over again. If you choose not to use one, so be it. Not required, but don't bash on the one who do, because they want some actual help when they do use one. I used one for my third time and she is absolutely A++, different immigration needs. Just once i used this other lawyer and he was incompetent enough and my naturalization was delayed. He fixed it, but I will never use him again

Everyone is free to choose to have a lawyer or not. For my son I did the documents for the J1 visa and for the F1 visa by myself and at that time my english was really horrible, I needed to use google translate all the time, but he didn't have any problem to have his visas. I think that I can prepare all the documents, I just want to be 100% sure about everything and I thank all the people that are helping me.

[Diane and Chris 651]

4 hours ago, carla s said:

Everyone is free to choose to have a lawyer or not. For my son I did the documents for the J1 visa and for the F1 visa by myself and at that time my english was really horrible, I needed to use google translate all the time, but he didn't have any problem to have his visas. I think that I can prepare all the documents, I just want to be 100% sure about everything and I thank all the people that are helping me.

Good for you, Carla!  We used an attorney and got an RFE. Biggest waste of $1,000 ever!  

[x_driven_x 1,778]

10 minutes ago, Diane and Chris said:

Good for you, Carla!  We used an attorney and got an RFE. Biggest waste of $1,000 ever!  

Knowing what I know now, I would do it myself if I had to do it again - BUT - the official instructions from the government I think are not clear enough on what works best for various forms of evidence and formats, and thus I am glad I spent the money this first time to know exactly what to send, in what formats, etc... It's kind of sad, because they could easily list a very simple list of what works best, and they don't. 

[carla s 4]

2 hours ago, x_driven_x said:

Knowing what I know now, I would do it myself if I had to do it again - BUT - the official instructions from the government I think are not clear enough on what works best for various forms of evidence and formats, and thus I am glad I spent the money this first time to know exactly what to send, in what formats, etc... It's kind of sad, because they could easily list a very simple list of what works best, and they don't. 

yes, it is set in a way that they want that the people pay a lawyer for to do that. But I am italian and I will keep knoked at all the doors for to have the replay that I need. They give you the replay for free but it is very complicate to find the right state office that gives you the answer that you need. It took us 3 months for to have a replay form The Pentagon about his services in the army and his records...

[bakphx1 789]

21 hours ago, x_driven_x said:

It's all about showing an abundance of proof, building the strongest case you can. I'm not sure why so many people don't want to send a few extra sheets that can significantly increase the strength of their package.

 

Photos can't be determined if they were within 2 years.

Airline receipts don't mean you actually got on the plane, it just means you paid for tickets.

Airline boarding passes are indeed better, they show you went to that airport, but they don't actually show you were admitted to the country. 

Your passport stamps are the strongest thing you have to show that you went to their country, were admitted for X amount of days and had the opportunity to meet them, or met in the same country if you both show your stamps.

 

Just the other day someone posted a DENIAL letter on here, I think in September or October thread, where they only sent the pages of the passport that had stamps and not the identification page. The reason for sending the entire passport is to show "hey, this is everything, I didn't just copy the pages with stamps out of someone else's book" The blank pages themselves don't sure anything, but they show your complete picture of your passport, from front to back. 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with making your case strong, but it may be counterproductive to send information that isn't helpful or salient. Making a reviewer sift through things that don't help them approve you won't make it get processed faster. 

 

You're correct on the points of pictures not being verifiable.  I even took the step of taking pictures in front of major landmarks on the trips we took together.  But I think they don't approach a petition with the assumption it's all fake, except for high fraud countries or when information isn't consistent and/or there are red flags. 

 

But, I think as part of the review they can check CBP info to see if the dates of travel match what you state.  I think people don't realize that they have quite a bit of information available to them and they've checked things out as part of the approval process.  Therefore, lying is always bad. 

 

I was like you in submitting everything I could think of, but felt like a lot of it was superfluous afterwards. I've never seen anyone here have their trips doubted or accused of submitting travel documents for trips that didn't take place. 

 

The visa info page must be submitted by everyone, but the stamps...who knows.  They may just verify it independently anyway. I say this as someone who submitted the matching stamps from both passports. 

 

The other side is  you definitely want to submit all information you want to be in your file so that it is complete. I have seen people who got denied but brought supporting information with them to the interview. They complained that the CO didn't look at the information and it wasn't added to the file. This makes it tough when it goes back to USCIS as they only review the file at that point and that's when you want it as complete as possible to avoid doing additional appeal work. This again seems more of an issue in high fraud countries and couples who have seemingly had little or no in-person time together.

Edited April 29, 2018 by bakphx1

[carla s 4]

I have the problem that my son was Bob's exchange student. My son went to study one year at the highschool in USA and lived with Bob. After two months that my son was in USA Bob and I started to talk as parents and in 3 months we realized that something special was born between us, we realized that we were in love. So I told to my husband that I was not in love with him anymore and I started the docuements for my divorce. Bob told to his wife that he was in love with another woman. Everybody were shocked, they thought we were insane, that it is impossible for two people form two different country, two different colture, two different life style be in love. I went in USA after 6 months that we realized that we were in love. My son decided to study at the university in USA (he got the F1 visa) and to live with Bob but 3 weeks before to live Italy my mother got sick and he decided to stay in Italy for to help her and study at the university in Italy. I went in USA three times for to stay with him and he came in Italy one time. I known his parents, he known my parents too.

Bob and I got our divorce after we met the first time... I hope that is not a problem: I know that it is not good that we started our love story when we were married with other people but that it was happened to us. I hope that is not a problem that my son got a F1 visa for to study in USA and in the end he stayed in Italy!
Anyway in case that they will not give the K1 visa will move to another part of the world where we can live together. It is sad that a state has the power to tell if we are allowed to live together or not!

Sorry about my bad english