Liberals Urge Nation To Respect Minorities’ Opinions Until Those Opinions Contradict Them

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jayjayj said:

You can disagree with him without trying to ridicule him.  Calling his comments ridiculous is not your right as a person of non-color.

his comments are ridiculous. i disagree with his ridiculous comments. i've never bought a kayne album either.

totally within my right to say all of these things.

 

 

[yuna628 9,671]

2 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

You can disagree with him without trying to ridicule him.  Calling his comments ridiculous is not your right as a person of non-color.

Are you a POC?

 

Just so we're clear how this circular argument works to you.

[jayjayj 571]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

his comments are ridiculous. i disagree with his ridiculous comments. i've never bought a kayne album either.

totally within my right to say all of these things.

 

 

You are not, because you could disagree with him without calling his comments ridiculous.  You have no right to judge his beliefs to that extreme.

4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Are you a POC?

 

Just so we're clear how this circular argument works to you.

I'm not trying to judge his comments or beliefs, so your attempt at the straw-man is invalid.

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

You are not, because you could disagree with him without calling his comments ridiculous.  You have no right to judge his beliefs to that extreme.

 

i have every right to call his comments ridiculous. it's my opinion and i'm entitled to it.

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, smilesammich said:

i have every right to call his comments ridiculous. it's my opinion and i'm entitled to it.

You don't, that has been made clear by countless comments by people of color.  You have no right to judge his beliefs of the historical injustices that his ancestors have faced.  None at all.  You can disagree with him but ridiculing as a person of non-color is not your right.

[yuna628 9,671]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

You are not, because you could disagree with him without calling his comments ridiculous.  You have no right to judge his beliefs to that extreme.

I'm not trying to judge his comments or beliefs, so your attempt at the straw-man is invalid.

So no then. You've made a lot of judgments and assumptions about the statements Kanye has made. By your logic as a white person, you shouldn't be doing that.

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jayjayj said:

You don't, that has been made clear by countless comments by people of color.  You have no right to judge his beliefs of the historical injustices that his ancestors have faced.  None at all.  You can disagree with him but ridiculing as a person of non-color is not your right.

prove it.

 

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, yuna628 said:

So no then. You've made a lot of judgments and assumptions about the statements Kanye has made. By your logic as a white person, you shouldn't be doing that.

 

 

I haven't judged him at all.  You seem to be willing to judge him though, but as a person of non-color, you don't have that right.  

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, smilesammich said:

prove it.

 

You have willingly proved it yourself.  Are you really saying that you've never said his comments are ridiculous?

[yuna628 9,671]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

I haven't judged him at all.  You seem to be willing to judge him though, but as a person of non-color, you don't have that right.  

Hey Jay, ya mind telling me when or where I judged Kanye West's comments exactly? I can have whatever thoughts about his comments that I want, but I certainly haven't aired my thoughts here.

 

Or are we just going to keep going around in circles?

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jayjayj said:

You have willingly proved it yourself.  Are you really saying that you've never said his comments are ridiculous?

not at all, i'll say it again so we're clear: kayne's comments are ridiculous. now prove that i don't have the right to say that with specific "comments by people of color". they're "countless" so this should be easy for you.

 

 

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, yuna628 said:

Hey Jay, ya mind telling me when or where I judged Kanye West's comments exactly? I can have whatever thoughts about his comments that I want, but I certainly haven't aired my thoughts here.

 

Or are we just going to keep going around in circles?

 

 

Why are you arguing about it then?  If you haven't judged his comments, then you wouldn't comment negatively about someone saying he has the right to his own beliefs.

[jayjayj 571]

Just now, smilesammich said:

not at all, i'll say it again so we're clear: kayne's comments are ridiculous. now prove that i don't have the right to say that with specific "comments by people of color". they're "countless" so this should be easy for you.

 

 

Are you a person of color? Obviously, you are not.  So, you don't have the right to disparage the beliefs of a person of color, when they are expressing their beliefs about the tragedies that befell their ancestors.  Your ignorance of that is amazing.  Why do you think you have the right to tell them what to think?  Telling them that their beliefs are "ridiculous" is tantamount to forcing your ideals on them.

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, jayjayj said:

Are you a person of color? Obviously, you are not.  So, you don't have the right to disparage the beliefs of a person of color, when they are expressing their beliefs about the tragedies that befell their ancestors.  Your ignorance of that is amazing.  Why do you think you have the right to tell them what to think?  Telling them that their beliefs are "ridiculous" is tantamount to forcing your ideals on them.

so you don't have any quotes to back up your comments.

i have never spoken to kayne before, and never told him what to think. but the nonsense he's been spouting the past few days is just as ridiculous as this non argument i'm having with you right now.

[yuna628 9,671]

Just now, jayjayj said:

Why are you arguing about it then?  If you haven't judged his comments, then you wouldn't comment negatively about someone saying he has the right to his own beliefs.

Why are you arguing about it then for no reason, as a non-POC? If you are a non-POC you cannot judge what he's said, but clearly you have done that. You judge his comments as non-ridiculous, therefore you believe his comments are valid, or have some sort of truth of validity. A person has their right to their own beliefs, and no other poster that has responded has stated that he doesn't have a right to his beliefs - but so do the other posters on this forum. If Kanye has a problem with that, he's free to register and complain. I'm sure we'd be happy to discuss it with him without a non-POC yelling at other posters about what they should and shouldn't think. No one here is forcing their beliefs upon Kanye, and you know it.

 

Unless you are the obtuse thought police task force now? I know you're just going around in circles just because, unless you are a hardcore Kanye fanboy, of which, my sympathies. It's a hard time for his fans right now.