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Thanks for sharing your experience  My friend is also going through the same stress .

She divorced her husband recently after almost 3 years of marriage and has not claimed from her ex-husband. He is rich and doing very well . 

It was a good faith arranged marriage as per Indian tradition but didn't work .

 

Hope she will be able to lift condition from her greencard.


Thank you for sharing your experience .


If you could kindly share the Lawyer details who must have helped you in this regards.


Thanks

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On ‎6‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 2:13 PM, mindthegap said:

Unlikely...but you would be lying to USCIS which is not wise and can cause you massive issues further down the line, with a citizenship application for example.

 

You need to notify them. You can remain as a joint filing if you wish.

Should be noted that divorce is not grounds for denial -  filings are adjudicated on the evidence provided, whether joint or waiver.

Mindthegap I don't know who told you this but you are sharing a lot of wrong information.

Divorce IS ground for a denial if you filed the I-751 jointly. Once the divorce is finalized you MUST switch to a waiver. 

However, if you have separated and the divorce is not finalized yet, and your soon ex-spouse is willing to cooperate, you can still file jointly but in this case the presumption of bad faith is very high.

It's always advised to file the I-751 with a waiver if you decide to get divorced.

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47 minutes ago, littlefrench said:

Mindthegap I don't know who told you this but you are sharing a lot of wrong information.

Divorce IS ground for a denial if you filed the I-751 jointly. Once the divorce is finalized you MUST switch to a waiver. 

However, if you have separated and the divorce is not finalized yet, and your soon ex-spouse is willing to cooperate, you can still file jointly but in this case the presumption of bad faith is very high.

It's always advised to file the I-751 with a waiver if you decide to get divorced.

 

Divorce is not a sole reason for denial of an I-751.

Divorcing after filing a joint I-751 but failing to request a waiver of the joint filing can lead to denial as the petition cannot proceed without it, but that is not the same thing. 

 

The fact remains that the underlying I-751petitions are adjudicated by USCIS on the evidence provided and divorce is not a sole reason for denial.

 

 

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Of course, I have zero experience of a) multiple I-751s, b) divorce after filing jointly c) requesting a divorce waiver d) denial e) refiling, and I clearly have no idea what I am talking about, haven't amassed and delved through the detail of thousands of pages of relevant USCIS documents, anecdotal evidence and case law, and I enjoy sharing fake news and mis-information for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

 

Divorce is not a sole reason for denial of an I-751.

Divorcing after filing a joint I-751 but failing to request a waiver of the joint filing can lead to denial as the petition cannot proceed without it, but that is not the same thing. 

 

The fact remains that the underlying I-751petitions are adjudicated by USCIS on the evidence provided and divorce is not a sole reason for denial.

 

 

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Of course, I have zero experience of a) multiple I-751s, b) divorce after filing jointly c) requesting a divorce waiver d) denial e) refiling, and I clearly have no idea what I am talking about, haven't amassed and delved through the detail of thousands of pages of relevant USCIS documents, anecdotal evidence and case law, and I enjoy sharing fake news and mis-information for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

you just confirmed what I was saying. It's true that USCIS can't deny if the couple is just separated or has initiated divorce proceedings. But can deny a joint petition if the divorce is finalized before the interview.

Infact

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On 4/18/2018 at 10:29 AM, zsuzsanna said:

Hello all who divorced while i-751 was pending,

 

I just wanted to write a little encouragement for all who need it. 

I filed the i-751 jointly with my then husband at the end of September of 2016. NOA was October 12, 2016. 

9 months later my husband left me and a few months later our divorce was final with no green card in sight. 

I amended my i-751 and switched to a divorce waiver in October 2017. And yesterday, I was approved without an RFE or an interview. YAY. 

 

I understand what an uncertain and fearful time this is in our lives. As if getting a divorce wasn't bad enough. I can't offer too much information on the divorce waiver other than how I did it, but we can surely encourage each other through this journey. I noticed that there are quite a few people who are filing with a divorce waiver and thought to start this group to offer information and encouragement to each other.  

 

Zsuzsanna

Thank you so much for sharing your success story. I am in your same situation and this gives me hope and much needed reassurance. Thanks again

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hi guys, i need ur help!! i was divorced too, and now im applying for the 10 yr gc through divorce waiver, my problem is, i dont have joint bank account, and none of the utility bills was under my name, i dont have yet the final certificate for my divorce but i have already the final papers that were signed by the judge,  what if my ex and I will just file jointly?  or its better to file on my own throught divorce waiver. thank u guys.  pls help.

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1 hour ago, kerrydavid said:

hi guys, i need ur help!! i was divorced too, and now im applying for the 10 yr gc through divorce waiver, my problem is, i dont have joint bank account, and none of the utility bills was under my name, i dont have yet the final certificate for my divorce but i have already the final papers that were signed by the judge,  what if my ex and I will just file jointly?  or its better to file on my own throught divorce waiver. thank u guys.  pls help.

You didn't ever have anything in both names?
did you NEVER have joint accounts, insurance, car tittles, etc..?

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i have car insurance and i have the paper that he transfered the car under my name as a wife, but thats all i have, but i have ids that same address in his address and joint tax return written as a wife.

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1 minute ago, kerrydavid said:

i have cards and some screen shots from our facebook together and pictures with family and friends.

As far as the consensus goes on these pages; if you can prove that the marriage was entered into in good faith, you don't always need ALL the other types of proof.

 

So if you had things from back when you first met, and throughout the marriage, you should be ok. As far as everyone says! 

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thank you, but what about if i remarried again and just get a new based visa?like spouse visa, or its better to apply on my own like through my divorce?

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8 minutes ago, kerrydavid said:

thank you, but what about if i remarried again and just get a new based visa?like spouse visa, or its better to apply on my own like through my divorce?

I would ask an immigration lawyer , but if i had to guess, i would put that you're married, but not to the person from whom you got the conditional GC from. And then, again, prove that THAT marriage was entered into in good faith. But this is just a guess. If you're remarried already and want to know about "starting from scratch", you should either ask at USCIS or a lawyer.

 

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thank you, i wasnt remarried yet, but im engaged and want to get married mybe next yr, my fiance told me to just wait til my gc expires and when we get married we will apply for a new gc. but im afraid mybe the uscis will think i only get married again just for me to stay here in u.s.,

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