I751 Rejected!

[Webdevman 93]

The mistakes we made in the past were partially do to the confusing instructions and paperwork. The one mistake I made earlier was in a check. The part where you write the amount in I did wrong. Reason being I never write checks. In the past few years the only checks I have written where for this immigration process.

 

Basically they are not looking for real reasons to deny people. They are looking for excuses. Could you imagine my wife being deported for filling out a check wrong or for missing an appointment by a day when we have a child here who was born here?

[Jojo92122 1,924]

8 minutes ago, Webdevman said:

The mistakes we made in the past were partially do to the confusing instructions and paperwork. The one mistake I made earlier was in a check. The part where you write the amount in I did wrong. Reason being I never write checks. In the past few years the only checks I have written where for this immigration process.

 

Basically they are not looking for real reasons to deny people. They are looking for excuses. Could you imagine my wife being deported for filling out a check wrong or for missing an appointment by a day when we have a child here who was born here?

A US born child is not proof for ROC.

 

Being able to correctly pay them and making sure she does not miss an appointment is what is required for ROC.

 

So, it's not hard to imagine someone with a US born child being deported for failing to meet the requirements for ROC.

 

The excuses seems to be coming from you.  I don't know how to write a check.  I am entitled to having my wife here, even if I fail to correctly file and follow the procedures for ROC.  What's the big deal with resources being wasted when you miss an appointment that is required.  Not your fault right?  It's someone else's fault that you sent in the wrong check.  It's someone else's fault that you missed the appointment.  Please tell what should the US Government do to help you?  Are they really asking too much with a correct check and her showing up for her ROC appointment?

 

Edited August 9, 2018 by Jojo92122

[Ash.1101 1,756]

7 minutes ago, Webdevman said:

The mistakes we made in the past were partially do to the confusing instructions and paperwork. The one mistake I made earlier was in a check. The part where you write the amount in I did wrong. Reason being I never write checks. In the past few years the only checks I have written where for this immigration process.

 

Basically they are not looking for real reasons to deny people. They are looking for excuses. Could you imagine my wife being deported for filling out a check wrong or for missing an appointment by a day when we have a child here who was born here?

You wife wouldn't be deported because of all of that. That stuff takes A LOT of time to get going, deportation isn't an instant thing like we're seeing on the media, where the person and the whole family is completely shocked that they're being deported after crossing illegally twice, lying about their citizenship once, and spending 5 years in immigration court to finally be removed after a traffic violation that caught them being illegal. This is a process, and immigration courts are backed up right now as it is, but it's not something like your I-751 application is rejected and then the next day ICE is at your door with a court order signed by a judge to get you out.

If it's rejected, you simply file a new one ASAP. That's one of the good things about the 90 day window. If you send yours out on day 90, then you have a lot of other days to safely resend. If you send yours out on day 20, then well you better hope your application is perfect. Even those who have been rejected have resent applications using the original signed forms with any updated information or updated checks.

There are people who have had their I-751 denied post interview that are still here simply because they threw in a new application the next day.


If you don't want the application process to be your burden, then you may need to hire a lawyer. But if you're going to do it yourself, then you will def need to step up with all of these changes happening.

Edited August 9, 2018 by Ash.1101

[Webdevman 93]

1 minute ago, Jojo92122 said:

A US born child is not proof for ROC.

 

Being able to correctly pay them and making sure she does not miss an appointment is what is required for ROC.

 

So, it's not hard to imagine someone with a US born child being deported for failing to meet the requirements for ROC.

 

The excuses seems to be coming from you.  I don't know how to write a check.  I am entitled to having my wife here, even if I fail to correctly file and follow the procedures for ROC.  

I didn't say I did not know how to write a check. I said that I made a mistake filling out a check due to the fact that I never write them. My point being that in this day and age a payment should be easily done online with a debit card. 

 

It must be nice for you being perfect and all. Over here I get maybe 3 hours of sleep per night and right now life is very stressful so yes, I make mistakes. I do my best but ruining a family over a couple mistakes really seems fair to you?

[Jojo92122 1,924]

10 minutes ago, Webdevman said:

I didn't say I did not know how to write a check. I said that I made a mistake filling out a check due to the fact that I never write them. My point being that in this day and age a payment should be easily done online with a debit card. 

 

It must be nice for you being perfect and all. Over here I get maybe 3 hours of sleep per night and right now life is very stressful so yes, I make mistakes. I do my best but ruining a family over a couple mistakes really seems fair to you?

I'm not perfect.  I don't make excuses when I mess up.  I take responsibility for my mistakes.

 

It's not the US Government's fault that you made the mistake filling out the check or that you missed your appointment.

 

Fair?  Is it fair that everyone has to jump through hoops but you?  You are special and should be excused for your mistakes?  Like not showing up for a ROC interview?  That's someone else' fault?  Missing an ROC interview is not a trivial mistake.  That GIGANTIC mistake is on you and your wife  for missing the appointment, and the responsibility for that rest entirely on the two of you. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by Jojo92122

[Webdevman 93]

I accept responsibility and yes, I said it was our mistake. I am not blaming anyone else. I am just saying that a simple mistake should not be grounds for being denied. And what hoops are we expecting people to run through?

 

And no, it was not an interview appointment. It was for bio metrics.

 

 

Edited August 9, 2018 by Webdevman

[Jojo92122 1,924]

28 minutes ago, Webdevman said:

The mistakes we made in the past were partially do to the confusing instructions and paperwork. The one mistake I made earlier was in a check. The part where you write the amount in I did wrong. Reason being I never write checks. In the past few years the only checks I have written where for this immigration process.

 

Basically they are not looking for real reasons to deny people. They are looking for excuses. Could you imagine my wife being deported for filling out a check wrong or for missing an appointment by a day when we have a child here who was born here?

 

3 minutes ago, Webdevman said:

I accept responsibility and yes, I said it was our mistake. I am not blaming anyone else. I am just saying that a simple mistake should not be grounds for being denied. And what hoops are we expecting people to run through?

 

And no, it was not an interview appointment. It was for bio metrics.

 

 

You seem to think that sending in the wrong payment and missing appointments are not real reasons to deny people.  They are legitimate reasons to deny an ROC.  You think that sending in the wrong payment and missing required appointments are "excuses" to deny people and that's unfair to you. 

Ok, let's give everyone a pass on sending in the correct payment and missing appointments and keep them in the system.  That will surely make the system better and faster for everyone who can read and follow instructions.  Hundred of people like you who miss appointments will make the system better.  

[Webdevman 93]

7 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

 

You seem to think that sending in the wrong payment and missing appointments are not real reasons to deny people.  They are legitimate reasons to deny an ROC.  You think that sending in the wrong payment and missing required appointments are "excuses" to deny people and that's unfair to you. 

Ok, let's give everyone a pass on sending in the correct payment and missing appointments and keep them in the system.  That will surely make the system better and faster for everyone who can read and follow instructions.  Hundred of people like you who miss appointments will make the system better.  

Yes, I think legal status should be determined on eligibility rather than a typo on a check or getting the date wrong on an appointment.

 

The government makes plenty of mistakes as well. You should know that being a member of this site. Many people do not even receive their interview dates until after their appointment. 

 

Reasons are excuses? I told you I have things going on on here and I messed up, my fault. I know this and we both feel terrible about it. I do not believe we or anyone else should be denied for these minor mishaps. If these are the only real mistakes in this process that started 3 years ago then I would say we are doing pretty well.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2018 by Webdevman

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

Unfortunately come Sept people can have petitions denied without RFE. So hypothetically you could have been denied for writing a check wrong. Do I agree with it? It doesn’t matter what I agree or disagree with ..what matters is that it IS coming into play come September. The using of affordable care act is only speculation currently- not written law/policy. 

 

Unfortunately SO MANY people with children who were born in the states are removed for whatever reason- I mean is on the news all the time. Government doesn’t care what citizenship your children are. I think everyone here has just been trying to counsel you on the importance to cross your t’s and dot your i’s so-to-say.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

3 hours ago, Webdevman said:

Yes, I think legal status should be determined on eligibility rather than a typo on a check or getting the date wrong on an appointment.

 

The government makes plenty of mistakes as well. You should know that being a member of this site. Many people do not even receive their interview dates until after their appointment. 

 

Reasons are excuses? I told you I have things going on on here and I messed up, my fault. I know this and we both feel terrible about it. I do not believe we or anyone else should be denied for these minor mishaps. If these are the only real mistakes in this process that started 3 years ago then I would say we are doing pretty well.

 

 

 

 

I would not call getting ROC rejected as doing pretty well.

 

Immigration is not what you want it to be.  In this day and age, you expect to be able to pay by debit card.  Well, it's not your call.  Comply or be denied.

 

I'm trying to help you.  Your arrogance on how the system has failed you and how you should be excused for your mistakes and how the US Government is looking for excuses to deny you is not going to fix your problem.  Not my problem, your problem.

 

Get your act together.  Your opinion does not matter to USCIS.  Your failure to comply does.  And it probably matters to you and your wife more than someone sitting in an office adjudicating your case.  

 

When one of my kids messes up, he/she will point to one of the other kids for messing up too.  The blame game doesn't work with parents.  It doesn't work with the US Government either.  They don't care if they messed up.  They only care when you mess up.  You want something from them.  They don't want anything from you.  You screw up, it's your problem.  They screw up, it's still your problem.  Your case is NEVER EVER going to be a problem for them to deny when you screw up.

Bottom line - it doesn't matter what goes on here in this thread.  You need to deal with USCIS and how they set up the rules.  Even if you think their rules are stupid and trivial, you have no choice but to comply if you want to successfully lift the conditions on her green card.  

Edited August 9, 2018 by Jojo92122

[Webdevman 93]

ROS was not rejected. The application was rejected. We fixed it.

 

There is no arrogance here. Just stress. Our mistakes were not made due to arrogance. 

 

We are doing our best. Hopefully it will be good enough.

[non000 0]

Hi, I wrote check as 'US Immigration Service' instead of 'US Homeland Security'

when I submitted 8/22. 

I never get reciet today now.

Do u think is it not right?

Anyone knows!?

[Hypnos 6,576]

It's not right, and I would expect that submission to be rejected and returned to you.