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Jal7700   8

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Can anyone help me to figure this out about how to file 2017 Taxes  please ?. I am US Citizen and married with NRA Spouse my spouse still out side of country and never been in US before i married in December 2017 and I have to file 2017 taxes as Married filing separately. but since spouse does not have SSN or ITIN number how i can put name on taxes ?

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You put NRA (Non Resident Alien) in the place of the SSN which then makes the return not fileable electronically.  If you go to the tax forum this has been asked a 1000 times already

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3 minutes ago, payxibka said:

You put NRA (Non Resident Alien) in the place of the SSN which then makes the return not fileable electronically

i am using turbo tax and SSN fill not let me fill anything except 000-00-0000 ? can i print and write on form..?

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YES...You will have to print form and mail it in. I was told that when they arrive. Then you will amend tax to include the info. I guess. That is what I did.

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payxibka   10,045

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4 minutes ago, Jal7700 said:

i am using turbo tax and SSN fill not let me fill anything except 000-00-0000 ? can i print and write on form..?

Yes.  

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1 minute ago, waiting561 said:

YES...You will have to print form and mail it in. I was told that when they arrive. Then you will amend tax to include the info. I guess. That is what I did.

so just to be clear put all info and print em out and at SSN Space put NRA Spouse correct.?  no need to fill out any W7 along with taxes n all right..? thanks

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payxibka   10,045

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1 minute ago, Jal7700 said:

so just to be clear put all info and print em out and at SSN Space put NRA Spouse correct.?  no need to fill out any W7 along with taxes n all right..? thanks

Not if filing separately.  If you want to file joint then the W-7 would be required

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5 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Not if filing separately.  If you want to file joint then the W-7 would be required

oh ok yes i am filing Married and Filing Separately . so NO W7 right..does help for any immigration side if i file Separately or file Join..? I-130 still under progress ? thanks for all this help. 

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payxibka   10,045

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11 minutes ago, Jal7700 said:

oh ok yes i am filing Married and Filing Separately . so NO W7 right..does help for any immigration side if i file Separately or file Join..? I-130 still under progress ? thanks for all this help. 

No impact either ways because there are legitimate reasons to file either way, a spouse not having a TIN is certainly one

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41 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Not if filing separately.  If you want to file joint then the W-7 would be required

one more quick question please..? if u file Separately while your Spouse outside of the country, can u still able to get tax break credit for spouse or you can't ..? i mean to ask can u claim as exemption without filling W7 or not..?

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3 minutes ago, Jal7700 said:

one more quick question please..? if u file Separately while your Spouse outside of the country, can u still able to get tax break credit for spouse or you can't ..? i mean to ask can u claim as exemption without filling W7 or not..?

No.  You cannot ever get a spouse or dependent deduction for anyone without a TIN

 

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What I did for tax years 2015 and 2016 using Turbo Tax was:

1.  Filled spouse SSN field with 000-00-0000

2.  Printed forms

3.  Used whiteout over fake spouse SSN

4.  Hand wrote "NRA" in spouse SSN field

5.  Mailed forms.

 

As @payxibka said, do not claim spouse exemption if spouse does not have SSN nor ITIN....

 

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18 minutes ago, payxibka said:

No.  You cannot ever get a spouse or dependent deduction for anyone without a TIN

 

Great thanks you guy's !!

7 minutes ago, missileman said:

What I did for tax years 2015 and 2016 using Turbo Tax was:

1.  Filled spouse SSN field with 000-00-0000

2.  Printed forms

3.  Used whiteout over fake spouse SSN

4.  Hand wrote "NRA" in spouse SSN field

5.  Mailed forms.

 

As @payxibka said, do not claim spouse exemption if spouse does not have SSN nor ITIN....

 

Thanks for helping out !!

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Timeline in brief:

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