Whoopi Goldberg: Riots Over Mueller Firing ‘Would Be Fun to Watch’

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13 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I am fine with letting the investigation continue since it really hasn't found anything of substance relating to Trump, but I would like to see a 2nd special prosecutor appointed to look at the questions of collusion by the other side since as you say, it is important for the public to know.

Do we know that it hasn't found anything of substance? I don't recall the investigation giving the public "weekly updates".

 

This is why I hate all the speculation. Mueller has said mostly nothing.

 

"Leaking" - Anonymous sources? Don't a lot of people here have issues with "anonymous sources" being reliable?

 

17 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I know I have very little respect for Mueller based on the fact that he did not refuse the job due to all his conflicts of interest, but I don't remember at any point advocating for him to be fired.

He is a Republican with a long distinguished career. What conflict of interest in particular concerns you? His friendship with Comey? I have seen no evidence that it would effect his judgment in the investigation. It was not a secret thing that they worked together, and there were no issues when he was appointed. He was praised as a great pick, and a "fair" one. I see no reason why he isn't capable of doing his job and leaving his friendships at the door. 

 

There was also a potential conflict due to some experience he had at a lawfirm that represented Manafort and potentially Kushner? If anything that conflict of interest would bias him in favour of Trump but even then again I see no reason to think he can't do his job. His career at the FBI was untainted and respected and he has plenty of experience conducting investigations. I'm sure he knows when to separate opinions and facts. Far better than most of the public at least.

 

Good luck finding someone with no connections, friendships, personal relationships or anything that could be see as a conflict on either side. It won't happen. I think we have the most well qualified person we can have running things. I think we should just let him finish his job and then see what comes of it.

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43 minutes ago, bcking said:

Do we know that it hasn't found anything of substance? I don't recall the investigation giving the public "weekly updates".

 

This is why I hate all the speculation. Mueller has said mostly nothing.

 

"Leaking" - Anonymous sources? Don't a lot of people here have issues with "anonymous sources" being reliable?

 

He is a Republican with a long distinguished career. What conflict of interest in particular concerns you? His friendship with Comey? I have seen no evidence that it would effect his judgment in the investigation. It was not a secret thing that they worked together, and there were no issues when he was appointed. He was praised as a great pick, and a "fair" one. I see no reason why he isn't capable of doing his job and leaving his friendships at the door. 

 

There was also a potential conflict due to some experience he had at a lawfirm that represented Manafort and potentially Kushner? If anything that conflict of interest would bias him in favour of Trump but even then again I see no reason to think he can't do his job. His career at the FBI was untainted and respected and he has plenty of experience conducting investigations. I'm sure he knows when to separate opinions and facts. Far better than most of the public at least.

 

Good luck finding someone with no connections, friendships, personal relationships or anything that could be see as a conflict on either side. It won't happen. I think we have the most well qualified person we can have running things. I think we should just let him finish his job and then see what comes of it.

Yes, his friendship with Comey is his biggest COI my mind, and as you said, Mueller has remained silent, so I am not sure how you or anyone can come to the conclusion that it hasn't impacted his investigation.  I am not suggesting it has, but that is the issue with COIs, it is the appearance that matters and if Mueller was such a stand-up person, why did he not heed his own conflicts.  To me, that is a big smack against him and points to his arrogance that his COIs don't matter despite his supposedly stellar inside the beltway reputation.  Regardless, it is what it is, Trump should not let the Left goad him into doing anything rash with respect to him Mueller.  It is fun watching them whip themselves (the lefties) into a frenzy every so often over some rumor that Trump is about to fire Mueller.

 

As to finding someone, I am sure they could have found a state AG, or someone with little or no ties to Washington, or anyone there, but as always the Washington insiders only look to their own.  Seems elitist to me.

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9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, his friendship with Comey is his biggest COI my mind, and as you said, Mueller has remained silent, so I am not sure how you or anyone can come to the conclusion that it hasn't impacted his investigation.  I am not suggesting it has, but that is the issue with COIs, it is the appearance that matters and if Mueller was such a stand-up person, why did he not heed his own conflicts.  To me, that is a big smack against him and points to his arrogance that his COIs don't matter despite his supposedly stellar inside the beltway reputation.  Regardless, it is what it is, Trump should not let the Left goad him into doing anything rash with respect to him Mueller.  It is fun watching them whip themselves (the lefties) into a frenzy every so often over some rumor that Trump is about to fire Mueller.

 

As to finding someone, I am sure they could have found a state AG, or someone with little or no ties to Washington, or anyone there, but as always the Washington insiders only look to their own.  Seems elitist to me.

I just don't see the "goading" into doing it. I see it, again, more as repeated public reminders of how many people don't want him to fire Mueller, as a reminder to him. The best way to send Trump a message is to put something in the news. I don't think all the articles about what would happen if he fired Mueller are being written to encourage him to fire Mueller...that would be a little backwards. 

 

Even a State AG is likely going to have connections, and I'm sure people could find issues if they wanted to look for them. I agree that "appearances" matter with COI. I just don't see his prior working relationship with Comey as even an appearance issue. of course he worked with them, they were both at the FBI. That shouldn't disqualify anyone who was ever a contemporary from serving. Again I see no reason to think he can't do the job appropriately. He is a professional. And as i've said before my gut is that he won't find anything specifically on Trump, so Trump will be just fine. I'm sure Trump will have no problem letting some of his "friends" burn for it as long as he isn't implicated. He'll take that as a win.

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2 minutes ago, bcking said:

I just don't see the "goading" into doing it. I see it, again, more as repeated public reminders of how many people don't want him to fire Mueller, as a reminder to him. The best way to send Trump a message is to put something in the news. I don't think all the articles about what would happen if he fired Mueller are being written to encourage him to fire Mueller...that would be a little backwards. 

 

Even a State AG is likely going to have connections, and I'm sure people could find issues if they wanted to look for them. I agree that "appearances" matter with COI. I just don't see his prior working relationship with Comey as even an appearance issue. of course he worked with them, they were both at the FBI. That shouldn't disqualify anyone who was ever a contemporary from serving. Again I see no reason to think he can't do the job appropriately. He is a professional. And as i've said before my gut is that he won't find anything specifically on Trump, so Trump will be just fine. I'm sure Trump will have no problem letting some of his "friends" burn for it as long as he isn't implicated. He'll take that as a win.

This is because you don't see the bias in the left wing mainstream media.  Why is every story the past few days since the Cohen raid discussing Trump firing Mueller?  It seems the leftist press thinks they can put that out there over and over again to try and get their new W&B moment.  I don't think we will agree on what constitutes a COI, but I for one like those taken care of before something is started, not to wait for a conclusion then have to deal with it.  Btw, you have no idea if Mueller is professional or not unless you want to disclose you know him personally, you only have media accounts that another inside the beltway type says he is a good man.  That type of recommendation is dubious at best. 

 

It is sad to realize now that we have precedent of setting up a special prosecutor every four years now strictly due to political narratives from the losing side.  I still remember everyone worrying if Trump would accept the election results when Hillary would win.  It seems the other side is still in denial hence Mueller has a new job. 

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10 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

This is because you don't see the bias in the left wing mainstream media.  Why is every story the past few days since the Cohen raid discussing Trump firing Mueller?  It seems the leftist press thinks they can put that out there over and over again to try and get their new W&B moment.  I don't think we will agree on what constitutes a COI, but I for one like those taken care of before something is started, not to wait for a conclusion then have to deal with it.  Btw, you have no idea if Mueller is professional or not unless you want to disclose you know him personally, you only have media accounts that another inside the beltway type says he is a good man.  That type of recommendation is dubious at best. 

 

It is sad to realize now that we have precedent of setting up a special prosecutor every four years now strictly due to political narratives from the losing side.  I still remember everyone worrying if Trump would accept the election results when Hillary would win.  It seems the other side is still in denial hence Mueller has a new job. 

I still don't see how writing multiple articles about how bad it would be if Trump fired Mueller is intended to encourage Trump to fire him? That is backwards, it is illogical. I can't speak for media outlets about why they post these stories, but it certainly isn't to encourage the President to fire him. You don't encourage someone to do something by saying "Man you are going to get in so much trouble if you do! It will be horrible!". 

 

Mueller has an excellent reputation from those who have worked with him, regardless of political positions. When he was selected he was generally considered from both sides as an excellent choice. I see no reason for people suddenly changing their minds now that it's convenient to do so.

 

The Special Investigation has nothing to do with the "other side". It wasn't started by the "other side", it wasn't started to overturn the election. It's sad after all this time that you (and I realize you aren't alone) still don't really grasp what the investigation is about and why it is important. 

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3 hours ago, bcking said:

There has definitely been a lot of talk here about wanting the investigation to end, from people who are generally Trump fans. Maybe not by way of firing Mueller but clearly you and many others here have wanted it over and done with for awhile now.

So when exactly did I say I wanted the investigation to end? Actually I have been consistently saying the opposite. I actually want it to continue because the longer it goes on with more results the more foolish the left looks.

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

I am fine with letting the investigation continue since it really hasn't found anything of substance relating to Trump, but I would like to see a 2nd special prosecutor appointed to look at the questions of collusion by the other side since as you say, it is important for the public to know.

Agreed 100%. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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7 minutes ago, bcking said:

I still don't see how writing multiple articles about how bad it would be if Trump fired Mueller is intended to encourage Trump to fire him? That is backwards, it is illogical. I can't speak for media outlets about why they post these stories, but it certainly isn't to encourage the President to fire him. You don't encourage someone to do something by saying "Man you are going to get in so much trouble if you do! It will be horrible!". 

 

Mueller has an excellent reputation from those who have worked with him, regardless of political positions. When he was selected he was generally considered from both sides as an excellent choice. I see no reason for people suddenly changing their minds now that it's convenient to do so.

 

The Special Investigation has nothing to do with the "other side". It wasn't started by the "other side", it wasn't started to overturn the election. It's sad after all this time that you (and I realize you aren't alone) still don't really grasp what the investigation is about and why it is important. 

What is the major feeling of those on the Left with respect to Trump, he is an idiot, lacks intelligence, is a Russian puppet, he is ego driven, etc., etc., etc., which leads some to believe he can be influenced easily particularly with respect to his ego.  In many ways, I think Trump likes playing with the press which honestly is fun to watch.  Someone needs to toy with them as much as they toy with others with very little pushback.

 

As to Mueller being liked by both sides, who cares since these are all inside the beltway types, so the only thing that matters is that Mueller is an inside the beltway type himself.  I think you need to go back and understand what false narrative pushed by the "other side" (and their media allies) was the cause of the investigation to be started and eventually the special prosecutor being appointed.  It had nothing to do with truth, as Peter Strzok and Lisa Page tell us, it was to potentially take care of Trump in the unlikely event he defeated the Hillary.  Sure Mueller got a few folks to lie to a federal agent and Manafort, Gates and now Cohen may be in trouble for issues unrelated to the election, but nothing related to the election and I think a regular federal prosecutor could have gone after those three without needing to bring in COI Mueller and his team.  Then the thing that galls me is that when we have actual proof of foreign collusion that occurred it is ignored, much like Hillary got a pass by the FBI over her homebrew email server.

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1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

So when exactly did I say I wanted the investigation to end? Actually I have been consistently saying the opposite. I actually want it to continue because the longer it goes on with more results the more foolish the left looks.

My impression on here has been that many people think either A. The investigation shouldn't have started or B. It should be over with. I'm not going to go hunting through your post history to find quotes. One particular thread I recall from a little while back was about how much the investigation was costing. It seemed to suggest many people in that thread wanted it over with.

 

If you don't want it to end that's fine. I'll take your word for it. Glad we are on the same page then. I look forward to discussing the results of the investigation when it is over with.

 

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

What is the major feeling of those on the Left with respect to Trump, he is an idiot, lacks intelligence, is a Russian puppet, he is ego driven, etc., etc., etc., which leads some to believe he can be influenced easily particularly with respect to his ego.  In many ways, I think Trump likes playing with the press which honestly is fun to watch.  Someone needs to toy with them as much as they toy with others with very little pushback.

So you're saying you think that by repeatedly saying "It would be bad if you fire Mueller" in the media, the "leftists" are hoping that he will take bait and think it's a challenge?

 

So we think Trump is like that kid in high school who would do things that were reckless or stupid just because other people told him not to. "No billy, don't set fireworks under the bleachers during the game. It's a dumb idea" to which Billy replies "Hold my cup" and proceeds to do so.

 

Actually now that you mention it...that may be a pretty reasonable description of Trump...I for one don't want him to fire Mueller, so I don't have any secret agenda here.

 

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

As to Mueller being liked by both sides, who cares since these are all inside the beltway types, so the only thing that matters is that Mueller is an inside the beltway type himself.  I think you need to go back and understand what false narrative pushed by the "other side" (and their media allies) was the cause of the investigation to be started and eventually the special prosecutor being appointed.  It had nothing to do with truth, as Peter Strzok and Lisa Page tell us, it was to potentially take care of Trump in the unlikely event he defeated the Hillary.  

I'm sorry that is just not true.

 

The Intelligence Community released declassified reports detailing the evidence (heavily redacted reports) and the intelligence community assessment that Russia was meddling in our election. Not just the FBI, not just the CIA. They all got together and agreed.

 

Many members of both the House and the Senate, including many Republicans, all called for a Special Investigation. That includes Senators McCain, Lankford, Collins and Representative Issa (i'm just listing Republicans, since you seemed to suggest it was all due to "the other side"). 

 

Trump in May then proceeded to fire James Comey, and Comey under oath stated that he interpreted a meeting with Trump to suggest he was asking him to stop investigating Flynn. Trump denied that was his intention, but then again Trump hasn't denied it under oath...

 

A REPUBLICAN, TRUMP Appointee (Rosenstein) then in May decides to open a Special Investigation. Mueller is picked, and initially (for at least the first couple of weeks) he receives bipartisan support.

 

I fail to see how this came about due to some media campaign. The entire intelligence community agrees that Russia Meddled, there was concern that there may have been some knowledge and cooperation directly with members of Trump's campaign, so they decided it warranted an investigation that was private and not separated from normal government proceedings. That seems all completely 100% reasonable. That seems like the Department of Justice doing its job. I don't see any reason for how much crying and whining there has been from people about how it is "unfair" or a "witch hunt" etc... They need to get over themselves and just let the investigation get on.

 

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure Mueller got a few folks to lie to a federal agent and Manafort, Gates and now Cohen may be in trouble for issues unrelated to the election, but nothing related to the election and I think a regular federal prosecutor could have gone after those three without needing to bring in COI Mueller and his team. 

You know that how? Has Mueller talked about what they have or have not found? Silence doesn't mean absence of evidence.

 

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then the thing that galls me is that when we have actual proof of foreign collusion that occurred it is ignored, much like Hillary got a pass by the FBI over her homebrew email server.

Sure I'd be fine with that (I think I've said that before). Personally I think it could be folded into the current investigation (and it could just be "foreign influence in the election" more broadly, instead of specifically Russia and specifically Trump) but I realize many people (yourself included) wouldn't trust Mueller to that job. If it has to be a second one, so be it. I wouldn't say no. I wouldn't cry about it as a witch hunt. I'd let it run its course and see what it finds.

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19 minutes ago, bcking said:

My impression on here has been that many people think either A. The investigation shouldn't have started or B. It should be over with. I'm not going to go hunting through your post history to find quotes. One particular thread I recall from a little while back was about how much the investigation was costing. It seemed to suggest many people in that thread wanted it over with.

 

If you don't want it to end that's fine. I'll take your word for it. Glad we are on the same page then. I look forward to discussing the results of the investigation when it is over with.

 

So you're saying you think that by repeatedly saying "It would be bad if you fire Mueller" in the media, the "leftists" are hoping that he will take bait and think it's a challenge?

 

So we think Trump is like that kid in high school who would do things that were reckless or stupid just because other people told him not to. "No billy, don't set fireworks under the bleachers during the game. It's a dumb idea" to which Billy replies "Hold my cup" and proceeds to do so.

 

Actually now that you mention it...that may be a pretty reasonable description of Trump...I for one don't want him to fire Mueller, so I don't have any secret agenda here.

 

I'm sorry that is just not true.

 

The Intelligence Community released declassified reports detailing the evidence (heavily redacted reports) and the intelligence community assessment that Russia was meddling in our election. Not just the FBI, not just the CIA. They all got together and agreed.

 

Many members of both the House and the Senate, including many Republicans, all called for a Special Investigation. That includes Senators McCain, Lankford, Collins and Representative Issa (i'm just listing Republicans, since you seemed to suggest it was all due to "the other side"). 

 

Trump in May then proceeded to fire James Comey, and Comey under oath stated that he interpreted a meeting with Trump to suggest he was asking him to stop investigating Flynn. Trump denied that was his intention, but then again Trump hasn't denied it under oath...

 

A REPUBLICAN, TRUMP Appointee (Rosenstein) then in May decides to open a Special Investigation. Mueller is picked, and initially (for at least the first couple of weeks) he receives bipartisan support.

 

I fail to see how this came about due to some media campaign. The entire intelligence community agrees that Russia Meddled, there was concern that there may have been some knowledge and cooperation directly with members of Trump's campaign, so they decided it warranted an investigation that was private and not separated from normal government proceedings. That seems all completely 100% reasonable. That seems like the Department of Justice doing its job. I don't see any reason for how much crying and whining there has been from people about how it is "unfair" or a "witch hunt" etc... They need to get over themselves and just let the investigation get on.

 

You know that how? Has Mueller talked about what they have or have not found? Silence doesn't mean absence of evidence.

 

Sure I'd be fine with that (I think I've said that before). Personally I think it could be folded into the current investigation (and it could just be "foreign influence in the election" more broadly, instead of specifically Russia and specifically Trump) but I realize many people (yourself included) wouldn't trust Mueller to that job. If it has to be a second one, so be it. I wouldn't say no. I wouldn't cry about it as a witch hunt. I'd let it run its course and see what it finds.

Then why is the investigation about Russian/Trump collusion, or is that just the description the left wing mainstream media want us to believe?  Btw, I don't think we needed to pay Mueller and his team to determine that a foreign government attempted to influence our election.  I am sure it was more than just Russia, and I don't believe they actually changed vote totals, so I am not sure what we are getting from the Mueller investigation other than a couple of unrelated items that will take years to litigate. 

 

Regardless, the so called Republicans that backed the Special Prosecutor are really no fans of Trump, so it was no surprise they are for it.  McCain is a great example, the MDL loves McCain at every turn until he ran for president against their rock star, then it was no holds bar to them and their media allies.

 

Anyway, enough said, Mueller is there probably for another year or so despite his multiple COIs, Trump won't fire him, and the Leftist types will find something else to raise a ruckus about and keep their fingers crossed they take over the House so they can impeach him..  Nothing new nowadays, and like I said, in 2.5 years we get to appoint another special prosecutor.

 

I think the hammer emoticon is appropriate here.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then why is the investigation about Russian/Trump collusion, or is that just the description the left wing mainstream media want us to believe? 

 

Sorry I replied to a lot of different bits of your posts separately so I'm not sure what this is in direct response to. The investigation is about that. From Rosenstein's letter appointing Mueller:

 

"The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confined by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)."

 

Investigating the obstruction of justice is subsequently connected to the above goal because, if true, Trump was trying to obstruct an investigation that related to connections between his campaign and Russia. So it's reasonable that it was then included in the Special Counsel's goals.

 

I was saying at the end of my post that I would be fine with EXTENDING the investigation into election tampering more broadly, which would then include foreign collusion from the Clinton Campaign. Though again I realize that you and likely many others wouldn't like that because you believe Mueller to be tainted and don't think he would investigate it fairly. 

 

5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then why is the investigation about Russian/Trump collusion, or is that just the description the left wing mainstream media want us to believe?  Btw, I don't think we needed to pay Mueller and his team to determine that a foreign government attempted to influence our election.  I am sure it was more than just Russia, and I don't believe they actually changed vote totals, so I am not sure what we are getting from the Mueller investigation other than a couple of unrelated items that will take years to litigate. 

 

We aren't paying Mueller to determine whether a foreign government attempted to influence the election. We already know Russia did. As I said, the entire Intelligence Community already reported as much.

 

We are paying him to investigate whether the Trump Campaign knowingly coordinated with Russia in an effort to influence the outcome of the election, and if so who in the Trump Campaign did so and whether Trump himself was aware.

 

7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Regardless, the so called Republicans that backed the Special Prosecutor are really no fans of Trump, so it was no surprise they are for it.  McCain is a great example, the MDL loves McCain at every turn until he ran for president against their rock star, then it was no holds bar to them and their media allies.

I know McCain has that reputation, which I find unfortunate. I have always thought he was one of the better people the Republicans have brought to the table recently. I also really liked Romney. They just ran against the wrong opponent. I've always found them both to be generally honest people doing what they think is right, even when I don't agree with them. I also felt they were both very uncomfortable with the way campaigns are run these days (attacks and insults), which I admired. 

 

The Republicans I was listing were, at the time, backing the idea of a Special Counsel to investigate, not necessarily specifically Mueller as the Special Prosecutor. There was bipartisan support for the idea of starting a Special Counsel, because of the concerns that just an internal investigation within the Department of Justice would potentially be tainted due to its relationship without the Executive Branch. I agree that it was a reasonable thing to do. If you are truly investigating the campaign of a sitting President, you need to act outside of the DOJ/Executive Branch and need to remain independent. Seems logical to me.

 

We are talking a bit in circles at this point I agree. As I said with jg, neither one of us wants to see the investigation end so we can leave it with that. We can just all see what happens. I have no loyalty to Mueller, Trump or really anyone else involved in any of this so I am genuinely curious to see the conclusion. I'm a patient man.

 

 

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I have yet to see anyone cite which USC "Russian collusion" falls under or what evidence there is to suggest Trump is in violation of said USC. A special prosecutor is supposed to be tasked with investigating the violation of a specific law after a seperate investigation finds cause for a special prosecutor. So could someone please enlighten me? Which USC violation specifically is Mueller charged with investigating? Or is it just a free for all regardless of what special prosecutor laws say?

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1 hour ago, bcking said:

My impression on here has been that many people think either A. The investigation shouldn't have started or B. It should be over with. I'm not going to go hunting through your post history to find quotes. One particular thread I recall from a little while back was about how much the investigation was costing. It seemed to suggest many people in that thread wanted it over with.

Both A and B apply to me. That doesn't mean I think Trump should fire Mueller. In fact I have repeatedly said the opposite. It is possible to believe the investigation should have never started and it should be over now but at the same time believe it is politically expedient to allow it to continue.

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3 hours ago, jg121783 said:

So when exactly did I say I wanted the investigation to end? Actually I have been consistently saying the opposite. I actually want it to continue because the longer it goes on with more results the more foolish the left looks.

 

13 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Both A and B apply to me. That doesn't mean I think Trump should fire Mueller. In fact I have repeatedly said the opposite. It is possible to believe the investigation should have never started and it should be over now but at the same time believe it is politically expedient to allow it to continue.

 

1 hour ago, bcking said:

My impression on here has been that many people think either A. The investigation shouldn't have started or B. It should be over with. I'm not going to go hunting through your post history to find quotes. One particular thread I recall from a little while back was about how much the investigation was costing. It seemed to suggest many people in that thread wanted it over with.

 

Jokes and contradictions aside,

 

I'm glad you, B&K and I all agree that the investigation should continue. Though I guess you want it to both be over with, and to continue...at the same time? You may want to get off the fence.

Edited April 13, 2018 by bcking

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2 hours ago, bcking said:

 

 

 

Jokes and contradictions aside,

 

I'm glad you, B&K and I all agree that the investigation should continue. Though I guess you want it to both be over with, and to continue...at the same time? You may want to get off the fence.

I can understand the political strategies being played out here, and like I said, this sets a bad precedence for future presidential elections where anyone can raise concerns and we should have a special prosecutor appointed to look into the allegations.