221 G in Jordan

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Hello All.

I am new to this so bear with me...My fiance in Jordan had his interview on April 24th, which was moved up from the original date of June 19th, 2007. The CO was not happy with his English level, it seems, even though I speak Arabic and English. She gave him a 221(G) letter with no explanation but just a note saying "You will be contacted for a follow-up interview." which was highlighted and starred. She was not so nice and did not ask to see pictures or the like. We have an awesome application since I've been to Jordan a couple of times, actually 2 mos ago, with my mother for the engagement party, and I have a good job and have had regular communication, via e-mail, with the embassy throughout the process. So, I don't know what's wrong. I think my fiance was very nervous, as was I that day. We have been waiting a good deal of time, alhum.., Sept. 2006 for this interview and just wanted to be together. Not sure what to do next...I think just wait. Met my lawyer yesterday. He was not too encouraging. He said that they may just be stalling...but I thought, that's silly why would they do that?..but I still have faith that this is just a small impasse and that they will give my fiance the visa soon, inshallah.

Thanks so much...any kind or encouraging words are welcome.

aishah

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Hello All.

I am new to this so bear with me...My fiance in Jordan had his interview on April 24th, which was moved up from the original date of June 19th, 2007. The CO was not happy with his English level, it seems, even though I speak Arabic and English. She gave him a 221(G) letter with no explanation but just a note saying "You will be contacted for a follow-up interview." which was highlighted and starred. She was not so nice and did not ask to see pictures or the like. We have an awesome application since I've been to Jordan a couple of times, actually 2 mos ago, with my mother for the engagement party, and I have a good job and have had regular communication, via e-mail, with the embassy throughout the process. So, I don't know what's wrong. I think my fiance was very nervous, as was I that day. We have been waiting a good deal of time, alhum.., Sept. 2006 for this interview and just wanted to be together. Not sure what to do next...I think just wait. Met my lawyer yesterday. He was not too encouraging. He said that they may just be stalling...but I thought, that's silly why would they do that?..but I still have faith that this is just a small impasse and that they will give my fiance the visa soon, inshallah.

Thanks so much...any kind or encouraging words are welcome.

aishah

Don't worry too much. The COs are rarely nice and are trained to come out with that "look". (at least in certain countries) Sounds like a small setback as you said and it will get resolved. Being nervous at the interview might have raised a suspicion, but be glad they want a follow up interview. good luck and I hope you get a date very soon!

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Welcome to VJ and I am sorry that you are experienceing this terrible setback. I am also on a 221g from Amman but we are in it for security clearence. I know that I have my faith to hold on to and the love of my husband. If you ever need to talk pm me and I will be more than happy to offer support, I know how frustrating this is and I pray that your lawyer didn't mess any of your paperwork up and it has been know to happen when they are involved. My husband wanted to use the laywer that translated our paperwork and I was so very thankful that I was able to talk him out of it as 3 days before I left Jordan when we got our paperwork back it was on outdated forms. I was very thankful for the ladies that helped me for VJ. Have you called the DOS 202-663-1225 press 1 and then 0 to be transfered to a operator and give them your case number and they can see if there are any notes or a date set yet. I would not bug the embassy to much as I am fearful as I was told from others that went through Jordan that their cases seemed to lag and felt if they had not been bugging the embassy maybe there case would have not went on snail movement.

[MaryandMian 1]

Welcome to VJ and it is normal at some embassy/consulates to issue the 221(g) without any notation on them and to ask for a second interview. Stay positive and hope that it does not take too long to process.

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Welcome to VJ and I am sorry that you are experienceing this terrible setback. I am also on a 221g from Amman but we are in it for security clearence. I know that I have my faith to hold on to and the love of my husband. If you ever need to talk pm me and I will be more than happy to offer support, I know how frustrating this is and I pray that your lawyer didn't mess any of your paperwork up and it has been know to happen when they are involved. My husband wanted to use the laywer that translated our paperwork and I was so very thankful that I was able to talk him out of it as 3 days before I left Jordan when we got our paperwork back it was on outdated forms. I was very thankful for the ladies that helped me for VJ. Have you called the DOS 202-663-1225 press 1 and then 0 to be transfered to a operator and give them your case number and they can see if there are any notes or a date set yet. I would not bug the embassy to much as I am fearful as I was told from others that went through Jordan that their cases seemed to lag and felt if they had not been bugging the embassy maybe there case would have not went on snail movement.

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Thank you so much, very kind words. Also for the offer to talk...this can be quite difficult and lonesome as you may know. They did not tell us why we were put in 221G..I am hoping it is for security clearance...cause at least that has a forseeable end. But I don't know, they didn't say anything. Did your letter say security clearance or did they just tell your husband. By the way our names are Aishah and Nabil. Our paperwork was very good. I looked over it before he took it in so I am not too worried about that. I will contact this number you gave...thanks so much. I also pray you and your husband get through...love is a good thing always and we should make sure that those who have it can share it...God willing we will all be successful. Oh, I spoke to another lawyer today in the US and he advise me to wait as well....so that's what's left I guess...but I will call the number you gave. I only sent the embassy 2 emails. I am leaving them alone until they respond. Good advice. Please let me know how your case goes. I will keep mine up to date.

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Aisha,

welcome to VJ. Peace and blessings unto you - God willing you will get this resolved as soon as possible. It would help if your fiance could scan and send you the 221G so you can see exactly what it says. I've yet to hear of someone getting called in for a second interview from Amman (from the members that have gone through Amman so far), but it's a great sign. I have not heard of any denials, another good point.

So hang in there and get a copy of the 221G to see exactly what it says. If you ever need to talk feel free to PM me as well. I also have a yahoo group and 99% of members have spouses/fiances from Jordan.

Hope to see you around and best wishes.

peace,

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Thank you, lioness. I do have a copy of the letter and it says "You will be contacted for a follow-up interview" under the 221G box. It is starred and highlighted. And that's it...I had such a difficult time yesterday, just with some sadness. But woke feeling a bit better. I get confused with the whole process and I get a little exhausted with the time and the lawyers...but, thank God. I would love to connect to your yahoo groups and would enjoy sharing my story with you guys. by the way, what is "pm"...still learning the system here. Thank you for your post.

best, masalaam

aishah (& nabil, inshallah)

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I feel your pain, But please don't waste a year like I did. This is my story,

I also was with a man from jordan I am muslim smart attractive funny. I loved him and thought he loved me. I waited for him for almost five years during that time I sent him money took care of his family when he came ect...

You name it I did it. I look Arab I speak Arabic and I cook Arabic I took on the role of being the perfect Arab wife.

I been around the culture my whole life trust me when I tell you this I did nothing wrong.

I went to see him every year his family loved me everyone treated me with respect and kindness inviting me for dinner going shopping with me ect...

We I thought where in love. He alwasy told me how much he loved me and I was his everything.

Behind my back last year I found out he got engaged to another women in his country!

When I first heard of it I thought the person telling me was jealouse of me because she is not happy wiht his brother so I thought our relationship made her jealouse.

When I comfronted him I was laughing and told him what she said.

And that is when I found out it was true! I could not beleive it! And even after I found out he said "I was his love blah blah blah"

I hung out even after that thinking maybe his family put presure on him ect...

Well he just had his wedding and I did nothing but feel misserable for almost a year thinking it was not true because he continued to lead me on making me think that he was not going to go through with it.

I am telling you those men from Jordan will lye cheat steal anything to come to the USA. And the sooner you realize it the faster you will be able to move on!

I have a hard head and I could not believe someone would use me like that. I also thought I am very attractive smart have a little money know the culture religion why would he not want me??????

But it is true they marry thier own kind no matter what and if they do stay with an american women it is because papers then the kids come and they are very loyal to thier children.

I was married before to a Palestinian that is how I know so much about the culture we had 3 children together whom I raised muslim and when I ended up divorced he was on a plane ASAP going back home to marry a women from over there.

Let me put you in the head of a middle eastern man

They are raised in an enviroment (remember I lived over seas for two years) watching the fatther go off to work all day long and left alone with the mother (Arab women have a hate for american women just like some black women do for white women because they feel like we take thier men) So the kids are at home being raised by women who dislike american women then they are raised seeing the mother never leave the home not even to shop. In thier country women do not leave the home unless she is older or escorted by a man. And most men do not want to escort their women out because they don't want to have a problem with other men.

The men are raised that women are below them and women are here to serve thier needs.

Now this will raise eyebrows but I am telling you this is a true statement (remember I am muslim) But the islam they practice in the middle east is to thier likeing.

They think of american women as slutty and they will date have fun with us but when it comes to staying married long term(unless you get knocked up when he is trying to get his papers) they want to marry thier own kind.

When they marry thier own kind they know the women will take care of them cook clean ect...and never complain.

They then have affairs because they look at the wife like the virgin marry who is the mother of thier kids so it is kind of hard for them to be sexually wild with the mother of thier kids.

If you look at the culture unless your blind you will see most Arab men secretly have affairs but will never leave thier wife.

Because they know 100% thier wife will never leave them it is thier culture and if she does her family will not accept it she will be an outcast.

The Arab women will cook clean take care of his mother bare his kids carry heavy thing and never complain!

She is bread like that. I know I live thier thier husband is thier life they are not a real women unless they are married.

And the women know if they do not do what they should he will take another wife.

They dont like american women because we dont listen.

If you want to go back to him start kissing his butt and he will take you back.

In the Holy Quran GOD promissing them virgins in heaven that is the ultimate heavan so what do you think then they want on earth???

Trust me when I tell you this I am telling you because I have a very very big heart and I hurt and had pain for almost a year living in a fantasy and it took me a real long time to get it in my head that this man used me.

The last words I had with him I was crying and told him I heard he was getting married this summer and he said yes his whole family was there for the party, laughing eating having a good time and then he said could he call me later?

I said no I want you to be happy good bye.

And that was that after five years of my life of doing nothing but giving and doing.

It made me sick to know that his family whom I did everything for and acted to me like I was so special behind my back was finding him a wife.

It made me sick to know that all his sisters and mother where dancing at his wedding and everyone laughing having a good time why I was hurt and crying.

This culture is monster have no feeling for man kind. I am not the only one that this has happen too. I just thought I was specail because I was muslim and I looked Arab but I am telling you the family will pretend to like you just to get what they can.

Thier whole purpose in life is to come to america! I lived in the middle east I was all over the middle east they are very very poor culture imagine you live in poverty where you are living 10 people in a house no one making decent money you will lye cheat steal to get what you want.

I beleive his plan was to marry her come here live with me and us work here make good money so he can support his family there.

I know a few Arab men(remember I been around the culture 20 years) that are married in thier country and living here in america with an american women that has no clue!

When the american women goes back home they send the wife to her mothers house!

The Arab women does not care because she is convinced her husband loves her and using the american girl.

Arab women are bread from little on to STAND BY YOUR MAN! They will never question him they are just happy to have someone take care of them.

I have arab friends now that are men and they tell me even though they are married when they go back home the mother is begging them to marry another one.

The women themself beleive they are not worthy they are convinced that they are nothing without the husband and they will do anything in thier power to keep him happy including letting him marry another women.

When I was over sea's my sister inlaw had 3 kids she went home one day and found a young girl in her home her husband married and told her to bad deal with it.

She left but ended up living in a very poor situation with her father and mother who where old so she ended up going back and accepting it.

When this happen all the women in the family where extra nice to thier husbands for fear it was going to happen to them.

PLEASE REMEMBER don't try to think like them they think different we marry for love they marry to reproduce!

Thier love thier life is not a women it is thier kids!

And they marry a women for her to bare kids and take and raise them to be good muslims.

If you go back to the middle east you will see the men have tons of male friends women are not thier friends we are just to bare kids.

They hang out all day with other males go home at night eat have another baby and then go back to work and to hang out with the guys.

Once a week they will stay home relax and family members will come to visit.

Think about it when ever you see an arab man here in this country he is with his friends and if he is with a women she is walking with the kids and he is rushing her through a shopping mall ect...

You will never seee them holding hands walking hugging. It is a rare thing and if you do you better beleive they are young or just got married.

I feel bad for you but I wrote all this in hopes that I help you because I was stupid and I really thought that he loved me.

I cannot beleive that another human being could use you but they can they are not like us american people have compasion for life.

God will protect you and will give justice you will be ok.

GOD BLESS YOU!

this was not intended to offend you I am trying to help I wish someone would have told me instead everyone did not want to hurt me so they kept telling me he loves me but is confused. In the end that only hurt more because I lost allot of good oppurtunities waiting for him.

GOD BLESS AND IF YOU NEED TO TALK SHOOT ME AN EMAIL

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