I-134 form for K1(and K2 Visa) Help!

[Mike129F 53]

So the wait is nearly over! (Right?!) We did the 6 months USCIS wait, survived the NVC "I don't know or care what you read online, it can take 6 weeks for us to receive your paperwork from USCIS and up to an additional 8 weeks for us to process your paperwork and give a NVC number..." nonsense and then we were able to (with lots of help) secure an embassy interview date and medical exam 2 months out. Luckily an earlier date popped up and we grabbed it and are extremely excited to have only 1 week to finish prepping our paperwork. All is good except I now have to complete the worst form I have seen in this process the "I-134" affidavit of financial support. Of course I have my tax return from last year, my W2 from this year, pay stubs etc as well as will get bank statement officer letter tomorrow on last 12 months deposits, current balances etc. Heres the problem. I don't want to make it sound daunting but the instructions for the form are absolutely useless. Don't bother with them. You get absolute jems like this little nugget of helpfulness: 

 

What Evidence Must You Submit?

You must submit all evidence requested in these Instructions with your affidavit. If you fail to submit required evidence, USCIS may reject or deny your affidavit, for failure to submit requested evidence or supporting documents in accordance with 8 CFR 103.2(b)(1) and these Instructions.

 

That answered the question right? LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of threats in these instructions. Not a lot of actual instructions. Another Nugget: 

 

How To Fill Out Form I-134

1. Type or print legibly in black ink. (Because blue ink is suddenly not an option on this form? Why? I can do anything else in the US but if I ink my name in a blue pen my whole process might come to an end? Really?!?)

2. (Omitted because it was obvious in the first place) 

3. Answer all questions fully and accurately. If a question does not apply to you (for example, if you have never been married and the question asks “Provide the name of your current spouse”), type or print “N/A,” unless otherwise directed. If your answer to a question which requires a numeric response is zero or none (for example, “How many children do you have” or “How many times have you departed the United States”), type or print “None,” unless otherwise directed. (Ahh.... answer questions. Got it. As an example they give 2 questions that are not on the form. Weird at best. Who wrote this?) 

 

Ok.. Rant mostly over. Now for the actual question on this "form". 

 

Part 3 is "Information about the sponsor" which is me. Questions 22.a - 25 are about previously submitted affidavits of support. I left that blank because I have never been through this process before or filled out this form before. I wrote "None" in for last name. 

The tricky party gets worse on questions 26.a. to 37 because they are not clear at all. 

 

Instructions in section: 

I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services on behalf of the following persons. (If none, write “None” in the space for name below.)

 

Answer Yes, I filled out a visa petition form I-129f(visa petition to USCIS right?) last year which is why I am filling out this stupid form now. Is that what you are talking about or are you asking if I have gone through this process for others -not- named in section 2 on previous petitions? If you are asking about THIS APPLICATION and MY FIANCE in section 2 that doesn't make sense because all of section 2 was about MY beneficiaries information. I have never done this(been engaged to someone from another country) before, should I say None? should I just repeat all the info in section 2? I don't understand this at all. 

 

Question 38 in the same section:

 

I intend (checkbox)  or do not intend (checkbox) to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in Part 2.

(If you select "intend," indicate the exact nature and duration of the contributions you intend to make in
Part 7. Additional Information. For example, if you intend to furnish room and board, state for how long and, if money, state the amount in U.S. dollars and whether it is to be given in a lump sum, weekly or monthly, and for how long.)

 

Ok this is clearly about my actual beneficiary(fiance.. can we use this term please?) now. However I don't understand if they want me to make a general statement of "Yes, we are going to live together, get married and share our life and money in all ways together as a team." or if they actually want me to outline in the "extra information Section 7" that this will read like a lawyers happy place dream spelling out everything I think marriage and cohabitation entails and my financial role in it? Mortgage, HOA, Property Taxes, Gas Bill, Electric Bill, Trash collection, Internet, Car Payment, Car Insurance, Gasoline, Cell Phones, Dental plan including Braces and all cleanings/repairs, Health insurance with xx deductible, vision insurance, life insurance, clothing, bedding, furniture, college..

 

ok sorry, was ranting again but what are they looking for? should I say no because I don't have a "specific" contribution I will be making and therefore I don't have to use section 7 to try to quantify every expense possible? I mean really what the hell do they want here. The point of the document is for financial support which of course I am trying to convey but the only part of the document that talks about that seems to want me to list the phone book of services I might be willingly liable for in the future. I want to think I am overthinking this but this is plain english and there is no reasonable interpretation or instruction involved and I don't want to give someone a good excuse to deny us. 

 

Sorry for the novel, but I am sure I am not the only one going "What?!?" when filling out what should be a basic form saying "Yes, I take on the financial liability for my fiance. "  

[geowrian 22,338]

Read the form literally and answer completely and truthfully, and you'll be fine.

 

27 minutes ago, Mike129F said:

I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services on behalf of the following persons. (If none, write “None” in the space for name below.)

 

Answer Yes, I filled out a visa petition form I-129f(visa petition to USCIS right?) last year which is why I am filling out this stupid form now. Is that what you are talking about or are you asking if I have gone through this process for others -not- named in section 2 on previous petitions? If you are asking about THIS APPLICATION and MY FIANCE in section 2 that doesn't make sense because all of section 2 was about MY beneficiaries information. I have never done this(been engaged to someone from another country) before, should I say None? should I just repeat all the info in section 2? I don't understand this at all. 

Yes, you submitted an I-129F for your fiance, so you would name him/her. It's not asking about anybody besides the individual on section 2...anybody at all.

 

Keep in mind the I-134 is a general affidavit of support for a non-immigrant visa. Some questions may apply to you, some may not. Some may not make sense at face value as you're only looking at it from one perspective, not all the ones it covers. Not everybody filing an I-134 is doing so for somebody they petitioned (for instance, most co-sponsors likely never petitioned somebody before).

 

27 minutes ago, Mike129F said:

Question 38 in the same section:

 

I intend (checkbox)  or do not intend (checkbox) to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named in Part 2.

(If you select "intend," indicate the exact nature and duration of the contributions you intend to make in
Part 7. Additional Information. For example, if you intend to furnish room and board, state for how long and, if money, state the amount in U.S. dollars and whether it is to be given in a lump sum, weekly or monthly, and for how long.)

 

Ok this is clearly about my actual beneficiary(fiance.. can we use this term please?) now. However I don't understand if they want me to make a general statement of "Yes, we are going to live together, get married and share our life and money in all ways together as a team." or if they actually want me to outline in the "extra information Section 7" that this will read like a lawyers happy place dream spelling out everything I think marriage and cohabitation entails and my financial role in it? Mortgage, HOA, Property Taxes, Gas Bill, Electric Bill, Trash collection, Internet, Car Payment, Car Insurance, Gasoline, Cell Phones, Dental plan including Braces and all cleanings/repairs, Health insurance with xx deductible, vision insurance, life insurance, clothing, bedding, furniture, college..

This question pops up pretty often, again because it doesn't apply well to a K-1 beneficiary. You intend to marry this person, so the idea of specific contributions doesn't really make sense. Either response will be fine. I personally answered "Yes" then put this in section 7: "N/A (K-1 Visa Process)"

 

There's plenty of beneficiaries other than a fiance, hence why they use that term.

Edited April 11, 2018 by geowrian

[Mike129F 53]

13 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Read the form literally and answer completely and truthfully, and you'll be fine.

 

Yes, you submitted an I-129F for your fiance, so you would name him/her. It's not asking about anybody besides the individual on section 2...anybody at all.

 

Keep in mind the I-134 is a general affidavit of support for a non-immigrant visa. Some questions may apply to you, some may not. Some may not make sense at face value as you're only looking at it from one perspective, not all the ones it covers. Not everybody filing an I-134 is doing so for somebody they petitioned (for instance, most co-sponsors likely never petitioned somebody before).

 

This question pops up pretty often, again because it doesn't apply well to a K-1 beneficiary. You intend to marry this person, so the idea of specific contributions doesn't really make sense. Either response will be fine. I personally answered "Yes" then put this in section 7: "N/A (K-1 Visa Process)"

 

There's plenty of beneficiaries other than a fiance, hence why they use that term.

Thank you for the fast concise and logical answers. I was frustrated and thought that the form could be also applying to other situations but like I mentioned before I wanted to fill it out as accurately as possible. Its been a long wait to get a a form like this with ambiguous meaning and instructions that are mostly just threats. lol 

 

When you re-read these forms hoping for clarity it just gets worse because unlike the employees who write these, I don't have a clear understanding of all applications of the form I am being asked to fill out. They need a specific form for K1 or instructions that are helpful for different visa types. 

Edited April 11, 2018 by Mike129F

[Mike129F 53]

Since I was frustrated and ranted a bit I would love it if an admin could please delete this original post or thread. Thanks! I can't figure out how to do that now, but would like to. 

[Yuilicious 65]

On 4/11/2018 at 12:24 PM, geowrian said:

Read the form literally and answer completely and truthfully, and you'll be fine.

 

Yes, you submitted an I-129F for your fiance, so you would name him/her. It's not asking about anybody besides the individual on section 2...anybody at all.

 

Keep in mind the I-134 is a general affidavit of support for a non-immigrant visa. Some questions may apply to you, some may not. Some may not make sense at face value as you're only looking at it from one perspective, not all the ones it covers. Not everybody filing an I-134 is doing so for somebody they petitioned (for instance, most co-sponsors likely never petitioned somebody before).

 

This question pops up pretty often, again because it doesn't apply well to a K-1 beneficiary. You intend to marry this person, so the idea of specific contributions doesn't really make sense. Either response will be fine. I personally answered "Yes" then put this in section 7: "N/A (K-1 Visa Process)"

 

There's plenty of beneficiaries other than a fiance, hence why they use that term.

Hello! I have been looking for information about I-134, and thought you might have the answers!

I saw a lot of people saying that when the petitioner is filing I-134, for the question 38 which is "I intend (checkbox)  or do not intend (checkbox) to make specific contributions to the support of the person(s) named inPart 2.," they should answered "Yes" then put "N/A (K-1 Visa Process)" in the section 7.

Do you know what my co-sponsor should do for this question? My fiancé (the petitioner) does not meet the requirement, so his mother is going to be a co-sponsor. Could she write the same thing as her answer (Answer "Yes," and write "N/A (K-1 Visa Process)" on Part 7 on her I-134)??

 

I appreciate your help!:)

[geowrian 22,338]

Yeah, that should be fine. If she is providing housing or something as well, I guess that could be noted. Again, the question doesn't really apply for a K-1 so it won't be held against them.