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  1. 1. Do you curse at work?

    • Yes, I curse at work a lot
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    • Yes, I curse at work from time to time
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    • No, I never curse at work
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    • I don't work
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  2. 2. Do you think cursing should be allowed at work among colleagues (assume no customers)?

    • Yes, always
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    • Yes, but only when circumstances are extreme enough to warrant it
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    • No
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    • I don't work so my opinion doesn't count :P
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... profanity is a barometer of corporate culture because cussing up a blue streak may be taboo to some companies and expected in others. It's used as everything from a social bonding tool to a badge of status, from a weapon to a substitute for it.

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In some workplaces, says Timothy Jay, a professor of psychology and author on cursing, "if you're the one who doesn't swear, you're the weirdo." He says "profane language can be very effective in gaining credibility," and has been a privilege of rank. Traditionally, "it works down the hierarchy, not up," he says.

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Certain workplaces tend to lend themselves to swearing. Mike Dunton once worked for a bank where profanity was a mark of status. Traders on trading floors use foul language, he says, as a badge of accomplishment, sending a message that they swear because their value to the firm dictates they can. "You're not going to whack an earner over something verbal," he says.

Similarly, Jay Sapovits, a sales executive who won't swear in certain environments, distrusts other salespeople who never find occasion to swear. "There's an inherent element of dishonesty with people who are in a situation where a swear is warranted and they don't swear," he says. "If a salesperson doesn't swear, they're either 1) not dialing the phone enough or 2) are not to be trusted."

Not swearing was a career liability for Tim Orr. When he worked for an ad agency, the founder had one of the foulest mouths he had ever heard. It was contagious. "Over time, my mouth became pretty much just as foul as his," he says. "If you didn't give as good as you got, he would steamroller you." So they cursed like sailors, he says, " ... sort of like comparing antler sizes."

In almost any work environment, profanity can be a way to signal a level of intimacy among colleagues. As Amanda Jacobson Snyder, who works for a data publishing company, puts it, "It's sort of like a friendship's second base."

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Hmmm, well I'm not fond of what I think is the overuse of swearing just about everywhere. I'm not a prude and of course I swear on occasion, but I disagree that it shows some kind of status....that's just plain rubbish. If you can't make your point without becoming all foul mouthed, maybe your point isn't all that solid. That said, I worked in a construction office on a temporary job for about 6 months and first was astounded by the language of the people IN THE OFFICE. These weren't the guys out in the field, but everyone else. And to me, to see a man dressed well, in a suit, yelling some vulgarities across the telephone line to the field guys, made me lose some respect for him. It was explained that that was the only way to get their attention. Well, I became desensitized to it, but I didn't pick up that behavior either. I still prefer to use my outbursts for the privacy of my home. No one wants to hear my foul language like when I stub my toe...LOL :no::lol:

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I've been pushed to "cursing" at work under extreme circumstances. My cursing would probably be classified as very tame (and pretty lame) .... But then again, I grew up in a very conservative household and cursing was a no-no. But I can curse a storm in my head .. just not able to say them out loud due to cultural conditioning :lol:

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I've used the word poop at work many times.

"Oh yeah, eat my poop"

"Poop happens"

"Someone needs to flush that poop"

"I'm feeling pretty poopy today"

"Poop or get off the pot"

"The word synergy is a big pile of poop"

"When I get done with them they will be eating poop through a straw"

"This meeting is being run by a bunch of poop heads"

"You can't dress up a poop"

"If we don't get this project done there is going to be a poop storm"

"If you poop alone in the bathroom, does it make sound?"

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I've used the word poop at work many times.

"Oh yeah, eat my poop"

"Poop happens"

"Someone needs to flush that poop"

"I'm feeling pretty poopy today"

"Poop or get off the pot"

"The word synergy is a big pile of poop"

"When I get done with them they will be eating poop through a straw"

"This meeting is being run by a bunch of poop heads"

"You can't dress up a poop"

"If we don't get this project done there is going to be a poop storm"

"If you poop alone in the bathroom, does it make sound?"

have Poop Fetish perchance?!?!? :lol:

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I've used the word poop at work many times.

"Oh yeah, eat my poop"

"Poop happens"

"Someone needs to flush that poop"

"I'm feeling pretty poopy today"

"Poop or get off the pot"

"The word synergy is a big pile of poop"

"When I get done with them they will be eating poop through a straw"

"This meeting is being run by a bunch of poop heads"

"You can't dress up a poop"

"If we don't get this project done there is going to be a poop storm"

"If you poop alone in the bathroom, does it make sound?"

have Poop Fetish perchance?!?!? :lol:

yes.....I'm very popular in England where skid marks are a sign of affluence

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2/1/06 Packet 3 and 4 in the mail

3/15/06 Interview - neither approved nor declined need to send in Migratory Movement Certificate AP

3/20/06 Migratory Movement Certificate for myself and fiancee sent to US Embassy in Lima

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affluence or flatulance?

Poop does not imply flatulance....however they can be related. A bad case of flatulance could lead to mudd butt. It just adds to the sex appeal for the English.

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12/9/05 Check cashed (Never been so happy to have money leave my account)

12/12/05 Receive NOA1 snail mail - 30-60 day processing estimate

01/04/06 Receive NOA2 via e-mail

1/20/06 NVC letter in mail...will ship within a week.

2/1/06 Packet 3 and 4 in the mail

3/15/06 Interview - neither approved nor declined need to send in Migratory Movement Certificate AP

3/20/06 Migratory Movement Certificate for myself and fiancee sent to US Embassy in Lima

3/23/06 Visa Approved

5/19/06 I leave for Peru to pick up mi amor

5/25/06 Lucia and I arrive in Chicago

7/01/06 Legal Marriage

9/09/06 Religious Wedding

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I use bad words at work. Of course I'm the only one here all day long most of the time and when my boss is here it's my brother, so who really cares? :P

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only accepted curse word at my work place is chopf##k..

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:lol: I think I'll call my boss a chopf##k when he comes in later

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August 26th -- interview date - we need to complete a I-601 waiver so it's back to waiting again

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February 12, 2005 WEDDING!!!!!

March 10, 2005 mailed AOS and EAD applications to Chicago

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June 30, 2005 AOS RFE evidence submitted (translated birth certificate)

August 10, 2005 ---EAD approved via infopass appointment

October 18, 2005 - AOS interview in St. Louis - received an RFE for vaccination supplement

February 9, 2006 - denial for AOS letter due to the wrong form being submitted from the doctor. PLEASE MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO YOU!!

February 16, 2006 - USCIS accepts the motion to reopen without an additional fee - finally something goes right! We should hear from USCIS St. Louis office within 2 weeks.

April 3, 2006 - Received welcome to America letter in the mail!

April 8, 2006 - Received GC in the mail - done for 2 years!!!!

March 1, 2008 - mailed off I-751

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:lol: I think I'll call my boss a chopf##k when he comes in later

How do you pronounce ##?

Hmmmm.....I'm sure Prince would know.

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2/1/06 Packet 3 and 4 in the mail

3/15/06 Interview - neither approved nor declined need to send in Migratory Movement Certificate AP

3/20/06 Migratory Movement Certificate for myself and fiancee sent to US Embassy in Lima

3/23/06 Visa Approved

5/19/06 I leave for Peru to pick up mi amor

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:lol: I think I'll call my boss a chopf##k when he comes in later

How do you pronounce ##?

Hmmmm.....I'm sure Prince would know.

in the VJ dialect ## is most commonly pronounced as with a "u" sound (as in you) followed by a hard "c" sound as in "cat".

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August 26th -- interview date - we need to complete a I-601 waiver so it's back to waiting again

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February 12, 2005 WEDDING!!!!!

March 10, 2005 mailed AOS and EAD applications to Chicago

April 18, 2005 EAD and AOS receipt dates for NOA

June 30, 2005 AOS RFE evidence submitted (translated birth certificate)

August 10, 2005 ---EAD approved via infopass appointment

October 18, 2005 - AOS interview in St. Louis - received an RFE for vaccination supplement

February 9, 2006 - denial for AOS letter due to the wrong form being submitted from the doctor. PLEASE MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO YOU!!

February 16, 2006 - USCIS accepts the motion to reopen without an additional fee - finally something goes right! We should hear from USCIS St. Louis office within 2 weeks.

April 3, 2006 - Received welcome to America letter in the mail!

April 8, 2006 - Received GC in the mail - done for 2 years!!!!

March 1, 2008 - mailed off I-751

March 3, 2008 NSC delivery confirmation

March 10, 2008 NOA 1

March 28, 2008 Biometrics appointment

Legal Permanent Resident - just waiting for time to pass for him to have eligibility for citizenship.

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"Allowed" in the workplace - yes. But I think that employees should understand when it is and is not appropriate to cuss, and be sensitive and mindful of the views of the other people in their environment.

(So yes, I sound like a sailor in the office and a prude on the road! :lol:)

Make sure you're wearing clean knickers. You never know when you'll be run over by a bus.

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