Teens get youth program in sandbag death of Warren man

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Toledo, Ohio – Four teenagers charged for throwing a sandbag from an Ohio highway overpass that killed a Michigan man have been sentenced to a youth treatment facility program.

Police say the boys, who were then each 13 or 14, threw rocks and sandbags onto Interstate 75 near downtown Toledo in December. One sandbag smashed through a car windshield and hit a rider, 22-year-old Marquise Byrd, of Warren. He later died.

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/04/07/teen-sentenced-sandbag-deatrh-warren-man/33635921/

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Sad.  Here's hoping the teens learn a lesson  from this light sentence.

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

Umm.. the last boys who threw a rock were sentenced to years in jail. 

These Teens should have gotten something similar. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Umm.. the last boys who threw a rock were sentenced to years in jail. 

These Teens should have gotten something similar. 

Age difference perhaps?  Not sure to which case you refer.  These kids were 13-14 I think I read.

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

29 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Age difference perhaps?  Not sure to which case you refer.  These kids were 13-14 I think I read.

I'm not saying "give them life". 

But at 13 and 14 years old, they know better. 

 

And this is AFTER a few kids were dealt  jail time for the exact same thing. 

 

I find it kind of ironic that a DACA hardliner would say "take it easy" on kids who litterally committed murder. 

 

 

Edited April 10, 2018 by Keith & Arileidi

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45 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I'm not saying "give them life". 

But at 13 and 14 years old, they know better. 

 

And this is AFTER a few kids were dealt  jail time for the exact same thing. 

 

I find it kind of ironic that a DACA hardliner would say "take it easy" on kids who litterally committed murder. 

 

 

13 and 14 is still pretty young, and for all we know, the boys really are sorry. Until we know more, I think we need to trust in the judge's ability to choose the correct punishment. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I'm not saying "give them life". 

But at 13 and 14 years old, they know better. 

 

And this is AFTER a few kids were dealt  jail time for the exact same thing. 

 

I find it kind of ironic that a DACA hardliner would say "take it easy" on kids who litterally committed murder. 

 

 

To what DACA hardliner do ou refer?  

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

7 hours ago, Póg mo said:

13 and 14 is still pretty young, and for all we know, the boys really are sorry. Until we know more, I think we need to trust in the judge's ability to choose the correct punishment. 

Sorry really isn't going to bring back the loved one though.

13 and 14 isn't that young. 

This wasn't a crime of passion, they would have had to take a few conscience steps to get to that point. 

I mean, the family even thinks the punishment was too light. 

 

 

"Police say the boys, who were then each 13 or 14, threw rocks and sandbags onto Interstate 75 near downtown Toledo in December. One sandbag smashed through a car windshield and hit a rider, 22-year-old Marquise Byrd, of Warren. He later died.

The boys apologized to Byrd’s family in juvenile court Friday. The judge said they could end up in juvenile detention for years if they don’t complete programming of unspecified length at the youth treatment center.

Byrd’s family was upset, calling the sentence too light."- Detroit news 

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/04/07/teen-sentenced-sandbag-deatrh-warren-man/33635921/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=amp&utm_campaign=speakable

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9 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I'm not saying "give them life". 

But at 13 and 14 years old, they know better. 

 

And this is AFTER a few kids were dealt  jail time for the exact same thing. 

 

I find it kind of ironic that a DACA hardliner would say "take it easy" on kids who litterally committed murder. 

 

 

Are you referring to the case up in Northern Genesee County?  If so, I don’t think those teens have been convicted or sentenced yet, but I do believe they have been charged with 2nd degree murder.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Sorry really isn't going to bring back the loved one though.

13 and 14 isn't that young. 

This wasn't a crime of passion, they would have had to take a few conscience steps to get to that point. 

I mean, the family even thinks the punishment was too light.

 

 

"Police say the boys, who were then each 13 or 14, threw rocks and sandbags onto Interstate 75 near downtown Toledo in December. One sandbag smashed through a car windshield and hit a rider, 22-year-old Marquise Byrd, of Warren. He later died.

The boys apologized to Byrd’s family in juvenile court Friday. The judge said they could end up in juvenile detention for years if they don’t complete programming of unspecified length at the youth treatment center.

Byrd’s family was upset, calling the sentence too light."- Detroit news 

 

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/04/07/teen-sentenced-sandbag-deatrh-warren-man/33635921/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=amp&utm_campaign=speakable

I'm pretty sure that short of a life sentence or the death penalty, ANY victim's family would think the sentence too light. (Not disagreeing with you, just sayin').

 

 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Are you referring to the case up in Northern Genesee County?  If so, I don’t think those teens have been convicted or sentenced yet, but I do believe they have been charged with 2nd degree murder.

Yes.. I believe the kid who through the rock was charged with murder while the others are being considered as accessories. 

Edited April 10, 2018 by Keith & Arileidi

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1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

I'm pretty sure that short of a life sentence or the death penalty, ANY victim's family would think the sentence too light. (Not disagreeing with you, just sayin').

 

 

True.. I think we would have to ask the family. 

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20 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

True.. I think we would have to ask the family. 

Thankfully, we don't have to ask.  The law (usually) takes the emotion out of the equation.  There are families of victims who would forgive the perp, and there are those who would want to see all these kids do life in prison.

 

That being said, I still think this sentence is too light.  Except for the "indeterminate amount of time" in the program.  But unless someone tracks each of these kids by name for future convictions,  we will likely never know how effective the punishment really ends up being. 

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33 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Thankfully, we don't have to ask.  The law (usually) takes the emotion out of the equation.  There are families of victims who would forgive the perp, and there are those who would want to see all these kids do life in prison.

 

That being said, I still think this sentence is too light.  Except for the "indeterminate amount of time" in the program.  But unless someone tracks each of these kids by name for future convictions,  we will likely never know how effective the punishment really ends up being. 

Inaccurate... A ruling void of emotion would have tried them as adults ,offering 25 to life.( The standard for murder)  

 

The judge is in Fact making an emotional ruling based on their age. 

Edited April 10, 2018 by Keith & Arileidi

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36 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Inaccurate... A ruling void of emotion would have tried them as adults ,offering 25 to life.( The standard for murder)  

 

The judge is in Fact making an emotional ruling based on their age. 

Well we do not know the details, perhaps the rocks slipped and accidentally fell?