Applying for Visitor Visa for In Laws

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

16 minutes ago, Money2g said:

What exactly would they need to change in their circumstances, thats what I would like to know, because whatever supporting documents they had more than proved that they have no intention of being intending immigrants. They were more qualified to get the visa than 70% of people who got the visas. Also if they wanted to move to the US, their daughters would be able to bring them easily, how could they not have realized that.

The “easy” process you refer to can take a year or more. As a result, many parents “visit” their kids and then just “suddenly” decide to stay and adjust status rather than going home and waiting it out. (Many of those parents had obviously managed to convince a CO that they too had no immigrant intent)  So unfortunately having children in the US who can “easily” apply for their parents is a negative, not a positive, for a tourist visa. 

 

(Also curious where you got your 70% number from.)

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9 minutes ago, Money2g said:

They had deeds to homes they owned, the business that they have, and also were going to show bank statements, besides that I dont know what else they could provide? The 70% figure is just an estimate, but I doubt I'm too far off with the estimate. 

You said they had documents that more than proved they need to return home, just wondered what they were. Business could mean anything but what does bank statements or property deeds have to do with this.

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6 minutes ago, Money2g said:

They had deeds to homes they owned, the business that they have, and also were going to show bank statements, besides that I dont know what else they could provide? The 70% figure is just an estimate, but I doubt I'm too far off with the estimate. 

I know it is hard to grasp your head around it but just because everything looks good on paper isn’t a guarantee for them to get a visa. Remember, there is no law or policy stating they have to be issued a visa if they qualify. It is not a right but a privilege.

 

Think about it the same way of applying for a job. You may have all the requirements; education, experience, trainings, etc, but you may still not get hired.

 

The officer simply made the decision that they were a risk of overstay. Maybe next time they will be able to obtain one.

 

You are going to stress yourself trying to figure this out. Best to not let it get to you too much and know that your in-laws can still apply for a visa in the future.

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13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You said they had documents that more than proved they need to return home, just wondered what they were. Business could mean anything but what does bank statements or property deeds have to do with this.

Well bank statements would show that they have money that they would need to come back for, and to also show that they can fund the trip for themselves, the same goes for property deeds. But I honestly dont know what else they can show besides that to prove that they are going back, I mean what other strong ties to the country can there be? They don't believe having underage children, family members, homes and a business are enough evidence to prove that they would go back, so what exactly qualifies???

 

11 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

I know it is hard to grasp your head around it but just because everything looks good on paper isn’t a guarantee for them to get a visa. Remember, there is no law or policy stating they have to be issued a visa if they qualify. It is not a right but a privilege.

 

Think about it the same way of applying for a job. You may have all the requirements; education, experience, trainings, etc, but you may still not get hired.

 

The officer simply made the decision that they were a risk of overstay. Maybe next time they will be able to obtain one.

 

You are going to stress yourself trying to figure this out. Best to not let it get to you too much and know that your in-laws can still apply for a visa in the future.

Yeah I'm done trying to figure it out, I already know its not going to make a difference because at the end of the day it is what it is. I'm just ranting about the injustice.

Edited May 12, 2018 by Money2g

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Want to share the experience of a close friend of mine.  He and his family are Uzbek.  They have lived here in the US for more than 10 years.  For many years they tried to get his mother a tourist visa for her to come and visit.  She was denied, but they didn't give up.  They had her reapply probably every 3 or 4 months.  About two years ago she was successful (got the right CO?) and came to visit the family.

 

She never went back!    And that is why it is so difficult to get the visa.

 

 

Edited May 12, 2018 by Neonred

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I can show bank statements and property deeds, I live in the US, Has not been a problem for me why would it be for them?

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31 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Want to share the experience of a close friend of mine.  He and his family are Uzbek.  They have lived here in the US for more than 10 years.  For many years they tried to get his mother a tourist visa for her to come and visit.  She was denied, but they didn't give up.  They had her reapply probably every 3 or 4 months.  About two years ago she was successful (got the right CO?) and came to visit the family.

 

She never went back!    And that is why it is so difficult to get the visa.

And this is what I don't understand? They tried for years for a tourist visa but could have simply applied for a immigrant visa for the mother.

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34 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I can show bank statements and property deeds, I live in the US, Has not been a problem for me why would it be for them?

I'm not sure what you're asking? They had those documents with them, but the CO did not bother to ask for them nor would they have apparently looked at them. 

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46 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Want to share the experience of a close friend of mine.  He and his family are Uzbek.  They have lived here in the US for more than 10 years.  For many years they tried to get his mother a tourist visa for her to come and visit.  She was denied, but they didn't give up.  They had her reapply probably every 3 or 4 months.  About two years ago she was successful (got the right CO?) and came to visit the family.

 

She never went back!    And that is why it is so difficult to get the visa.

 

 

You see thats dumb, in the beginning of your story I thought to myself about all the free money the government got from them constantly applying and being denied when those people could have just tried to apply for an immigrant visa for her instead. But I guess those people had scummy intentions from the beginning or maybe they did the scummy act of making her stay just to "get back" at them for wasting all their time and money when they were applying for the visitor visa...I dont know 

Edited May 12, 2018 by Money2g

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40 minutes ago, Money2g said:

I'm not sure what you're asking? They had those documents with them, but the CO did not bother to ask for them nor would they have apparently looked at them. 

The point Boiler was making is that many people who live in the US have property and bank accounts back in their home country. We do too, in fact, and many of my immigrant friends still have one or both (it’s a common topic of discussion around tax time). It’s not a tie. 

Edited May 12, 2018 by SusieQQQ

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6 hours ago, Money2g said:

How did you research questions, so I may know what to research if they decide to reapply

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/669290-parents-applying-for-a-b2tourist-visa-approved/

 

I found that sample questionnaire while going thru 300 pages of posts here on the tourist visa forum. There are different circumstances or factors that affect the chances of approval. So far here are what I’ve read:

 

1.  Having an immigrant visa filed on the applicant’s behalf, usually causes denial. 

2.  Having a USC child or LPR child, usually causes a denial, but in my parents’ case it didn’t (I am qualified to file for Naturalization this year).

3.  Intended travel date. Apply the B2 visa 3 months prior to the intended travel date. If you apply soon, it usually causes denial. 

4.  Length of stay. Long vacations usually trigger denials. Keep the length to 2-3 weeks only. 

5.  Employment position and years of service to the company. Highlight your important roles in the company. Show in writing in detail that you play a crucial role that will make you go back and of course it matches the salary that you’re declaring.  My parents are retired but still the CO asked what their previous jobs were. 

6.  Who will pay for your trip? If someone else is “sponsoring”/paying then write it. In my parents’ case it is my brother who is paying for their trip. He bought the airline tickets and travel insurances so his name is there, not mine.

7.  Don’t bother with other docs like land titles, car titles, bank statements.... those are not required. Even if you bring them, the CO will not look for them. Even if you volunteer to present them, the CO will not care. Why? Because nowadays those docs can easily be “produced” under your name. Whatever you put on the DS160, that’s your only chance of proving your real intentions and of course your answers during the interview. 

8.  Grandchildren/pregnant child/taking care or helping out with kids — usually causes denials too. As much as possible steer away from mentioning pregnancies, babies and grandkids. 😂

9.  Age factor. Suspicion of immigrant intent if parents are still in the working age bracket.

10.  Dress to impress. You will spend $$$ for vacation so look the part.

11.  Be relaxed, courteous, look the CO in the eye during the interview. 

12.  Memorize all the details of the DS160 and the other questions on the list I showed. Be specific with the answers. 

 

Good luck!👍🏼 

 

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3 hours ago, Money2g said:

You see thats dumb, in the beginning of your story I thought to myself about all the free money the government got from them constantly applying and being denied when those people could have just tried to apply for an immigrant visa for her instead. But I guess those people had scummy intentions from the beginning or maybe they did the scummy act of making her stay just to "get back" at them for wasting all their time and money when they were applying for the visitor visa...I dont know 

My friend and his wife were LPRs at the time and did not intend for the mother to stay.  After she arrived she refused to go back.

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17 minutes ago, Neonred said:

My friend and his wife were LPRs at the time and did not intend for the mother to stay.  After she arrived she refused to go back.

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38 minutes ago, Neonred said:

My friend and his wife were LPRs at the time and did not intend for the mother to stay.  After she arrived she refused to go back.

OMG 🤣🤣🤣

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

3 hours ago, Neonred said:

My friend and his wife were LPRs at the time and did not intend for the mother to stay.  After she arrived she refused to go back.

<insert mother-in-law joke here>