Applying for Visitor Visa for In Laws

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4 minutes ago, Money2g said:

So then how exactly can applicant prove they are not intending immigrants if they do not take any proof, that makes no sense. I understand forge documents might be an issue in this type of situation but my in laws had legitimate documents. Also why do they ask for applicants to show that they have strong ties to their country when they dont even look at the supporting documents they present? This boggles my mind to think that they can do stuff like this. 

The information required is listed on the application.

 

To put it another way  how do those documents prove they are not intending immigrants?

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

The information required is listed on the application.

 

To put it another way  how do those documents prove they are not intending immigrants?

Well they provided the best supporting documents according to the application, what else could they have given? They were providing documents to show that they have multiple houses throughout the country, that they have a running business, the were providing bank statements to show that they have nearly 100k that they would come back to. I mean this whole situation is ridiculous in that it assumes everyone applying is guilty until proven innocent. What exactly is the point of having people apply for visitor visas when they are flat out going to deny everyone without even giving them a chance, why not just stop allowing visas from said country, at least that way it will prevent all the people from going through the stress and heartache just to be denied even though they have no intention of leaving their country and family, especially when they are people in their 50s. 

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Just now, Money2g said:

I mean this whole situation is ridiculous in that it assumes everyone applying is guilty until proven innocent.

Unfortunately, that's exactly the way it's supposed to work.  CO is supposed to automatically presume immigrant intent during the interview.  Job is for the applicant to prove otherwise by information on the application/interview.

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4 minutes ago, Money2g said:

Well they provided the best supporting documents according to the application, what else could they have given? They were providing documents to show that they have multiple houses throughout the country, that they have a running business, the were providing bank statements to show that they have nearly 100k that they would come back to. I mean this whole situation is ridiculous in that it assumes everyone applying is guilty until proven innocent. What exactly is the point of having people apply for visitor visas when they are flat out going to deny everyone without even giving them a chance, why not just stop allowing visas from said country, at least that way it will prevent all the people from going through the stress and heartache just to be denied even though they have no intention of leaving their country and family, especially when they are people in their 50s. 

This site is full of stories about people who visited and forgot to go home. Half or so of the people here illegally entered on a visa.

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With two daughters in the US living as LPRs (plus any USC grandchildren?), CO might have thought parents had stronger ties to the US and less inclination to return home?

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What were the questions asked by the CO and what were their answers? Compare those to what you wrote on the DS160. 

 

My parents recently applied too and were approved. 

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1 hour ago, Money2g said:

Well they provided the best supporting documents according to the application, what else could they have given? They were providing documents to show that they have multiple houses throughout the country, that they have a running business, the were providing bank statements to show that they have nearly 100k that they would come back to. I mean this whole situation is ridiculous in that it assumes everyone applying is guilty until proven innocent. What exactly is the point of having people apply for visitor visas when they are flat out going to deny everyone without even giving them a chance, why not just stop allowing visas from said country, at least that way it will prevent all the people from going through the stress and heartache just to be denied even though they have no intention of leaving their country and family, especially when they are people in their 50s. 

Understand your frustration.

Many times the decision is made pre face2face. The documents were necessary in case they were asked for. It goes to the whole “better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it” line.

 

The US doesn’t deny everybody. If you look at the stats, the US issues millions of visitor visas a year.

 

I do agree with @Going through that 2 daughters in the US MAY have had an impact. May have.

 

28 minutes ago, apple21 said:

What were the questions asked by the CO and what were their answers? Compare those to what you wrote on the DS160. 

 

My parents recently applied too and were approved. 

As you can see, every case is different. 

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51 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

As you can see, every case is different. 

I know that but one thing I notice when I compared different cases here in VJ is the consistency of information during the interview and what’s written in the DS160. 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Going through said:

With two daughters in the US living as LPRs (plus any USC grandchildren?), CO might have thought parents had stronger ties to the US and less inclination to return home?

They only have 2 daughters here, as opposed to 5 children back home, so I dont think anyone wants to abandon 5 kids(4 of which are under 18) for 2 married daughters, not to mention that all the in laws' siblings live back home, so still I dont know of anyone abandoning all family members for 2 daughters. 

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22 hours ago, Boiler said:

This site is full of stories about people who visited and forgot to go home. Half or so of the people here illegally entered on a visa.

That to me seems like a problem that they don't deal with on purpose, I mean how hard is it to round up the people that overstay their visitor visa and force them back home? The problem with the situation is good honest people are being denied because of the fact that the government doesn't want to take responsibility for people overstaying their visitor visas.

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21 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

Understand your frustration.

Many times the decision is made pre face2face. The documents were necessary in case they were asked for. It goes to the whole “better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it” line.

 

The US doesn’t deny everybody. If you look at the stats, the US issues millions of visitor visas a year.

 

I do agree with @Going through that 2 daughters in the US MAY have had an impact. May have.

 

As you can see, every case is different. 

Yes the US gives out millions of visas a year to many countries, but not our country, its not enough that our country gets crapped on from every way possible but they have to add the cherry on top by denying visas to people that just want to visit, thus making them feel even crappier because they are seen as "that" country. 

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22 hours ago, apple21 said:

What were the questions asked by the CO and what were their answers? Compare those to what you wrote on the DS160. 

 

My parents recently applied too and were approved. 

They answered with the answers that were on the DS160, what else could they have said. You and your parents are lucky that you're not from a country that is considered like ours, so you wouldn't really have anything to worry about to begin with. 

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37 minutes ago, Money2g said:

That to me seems like a problem that they don't deal with on purpose, I mean how hard is it to round up the people that overstay their visitor visa and force them back home? The problem with the situation is good honest people are being denied because of the fact that the government doesn't want to take responsibility for people overstaying their visitor visas.

Google Sanctuary Cities.

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Google Sanctuary Cities.

Seems like a problem that should be solved by not allowing the municipalities to do such things, but only for people that stay on visitor visa's who definitely had the intention of staying.

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1 minute ago, Money2g said:

Seems like a problem that should be solved by not allowing the municipalities to do such things, but only for people that stay on visitor visa's who definitely had the intention of staying.

To be fair Trump has been trying but not a lot he can do.