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All along I’ve been thinking the I-751 was just a formality but after reading the “megathread” showing a literal mountain of evidence I’m suddenly feeling underprepared.

 

Just to give a little history, the process so far has been very easy for us.  We are a same-sex couple that lived together outside the U.S for 12 years before we had the option to get married and return to the U.S.  Proving a bonifide relationship was easy.  In our photos together you could witness my hair turning from brown to gray!  During our interview for the K-1 visa they didn’t ask a single question and didn’t ask for a single supporting document.  The adjustment of status was super easy and required no interview.  I’ve been thinking all along that the removal of conditions would be the same.

 

I guess it’s better to be safe than sorry but I’m still inclined to go easy on the supporting documents for the ROC.  An I being to casual about this?

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7 minutes ago, InsanelyOne said:

All along I’ve been thinking the I-751 was just a formality but after reading the “megathread” showing a literal mountain of evidence I’m suddenly feeling underprepared.

 

Just to give a little history, the process so far has been very easy for us.  We are a same-sex couple that lived together outside the U.S for 12 years before we had the option to get married and return to the U.S.  Proving a bonifide relationship was easy.  In our photos together you could witness my hair turning from brown to gray!  During our interview for the K-1 visa they didn’t ask a single question and didn’t ask for a single supporting document.  The adjustment of status was super easy and required no interview.  I’ve been thinking all along that the removal of conditions would be the same.

 

I guess it’s better to be safe than sorry but I’m still inclined to go easy on the supporting documents for the ROC.  An I being to casual about this?

 

You still have over a month before you can file for the removal, right? Just gather all the paperwork it tells you to send. Your attitude doesn't really do much.

 

It's too early to know if this is some kind of unexpected manpower crunch or part of a unofficial policy shift to lower legal immigration that will continue to cause further delays. If you are in DC then I would be less concerned because the Vermont office doesn't seem to be as bad.

I-751 Removal of Conditions

-01/15/18 Mailed I-751

-01/18/18 Arrived at California Service Center

-01/18/18 NOA 1 Date

-01/22/18 NOA Received

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14 minutes ago, InsanelyOne said:

I guess it’s better to be safe than sorry but I’m still inclined to go easy on the supporting documents for the ROC.  An I being to casual about this?

When it comes to immigration, there's never a time to "go easy" on supporting documents.  Quite the opposite---gather every piece of evidence you have.   Put it this way--- Having lots of evidence and being prepared never hurts, however having too little evidence and not being prepared can be detrimental.

 

 

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

 

 

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We are also a same-sex couple.  Our ROC packet was extremely complete with good financial co-mingling, evidence of our living situation, an explanation, in advance, of the one thing we thought they might question (I am the only one on the deed of the house, since I purchased it long before I knew my spouse), future considerations with wills and medical powers of attorney, and the one thing I thought important for us as a same-sex couple - pictures of us with members of our families - showing support.

 

It's not about how MUCH you send.  It's about your documents telling your story in such a way that leaves no room for questions.  You build your case with your quality data.  Do not skimp - take it seriously.  But don't send 500 pages of texts!

 

Remember - you need to show the continuity of your relationship. An example: A shared car title is good, but three years of car insurance with both names is even better. 

 

Again - you have to tell a story, and the documentation does that.

 

Best of luck!  We are currently in the citizenship phase - it has been a long haul....

 

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18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

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One thing that people do too often is send in one or two bank statements and think it's enough. They want to see different types of evidence spanning your entire marriage, or as far back as is physically possible. Do some Googling and some searching on VJ to get an idea of what your package should consist of.

 

Ultimately, if you're not able to get a complete package together in time, it's better to send in the I-751 with payment before the deadline and deal with an RFE later on.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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As others have said, don't go easy on the documentation, especially financial docs. We thought my husband's ROC packet was complete but got an RFE.

 

Our initial packet had hundreds of pages including the initial pages of all our bank statements and samples of credit card statements. In the end we sent hundreds more with every page of every bank and credit card statement from the previous 3 years.  It was approved a month later, but I wish we had sent it all at the beginning.

 

Hope your process goes smoothly!

07/31/05 First met in Ft Lauderdale

06/26/13 DOMA overturned

07/16/13 Married in Rockville, Maryland

08/22/13 Day 0 Mailed AOS Package to Chicago Lockbox (I-130, I-485, I-765)

11/20/13 Day 90 AOS Interview completed - Approved!

09/01/15 Day 740 I-751 Mailed ROC packet to California Service Center

04/08/16 Day 960 I-751 RFE received - need to provide more evidence of financial commingling

05/03/16 Day 985 RFE response sent

06/07/16 Day 1020 I-751 approval notice received

06/16/16 Day 1029 10-year greencard received

11/16/16 Day 1182 Mailed N-400 citizenship application

08/21/17 Day 1460 Received alert that naturalization interview was scheduled

09/28/17 Day 1498 N-400 interview completed - Approved!

10/20/17 Day 1520 Oath ceremony finished - now a US Citizen

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Thanks everyone for your thoughtful responses!  I will take it all into consideration and will be sure to update my timeline as things progress.

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