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7 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

..that is refreshing to hear. Science is a dirty word to some nowadays.

 

Science is a dirty word?  Or is it just unsettled science that is debated?

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5 minutes ago, bcking said:

Pretty much all science is unsettled...to different degrees.

Including Global Warming?

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28 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Including Global Warming?

Well I don't think global warming on it's own is really science. It's just observation.

 

The human impact on global warming? Of course that isn't completely settled. 

 

Are we going to gain any more certainty in the near future though? Probably not.

 

Many times in science you have to make decisions based on information that is still "unsettled" to a degree. In the case of changing human behavior to reduce our impact on global warming, I'd say it's worth it at this point. If the science is right, then we are trying to do something. If it's wrong...then we are still reducing our reliance on specific finite resources which isn't a bad thing even ignoring the climate argument.

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10 minutes ago, bcking said:

Well I don't think global warming on it's own is really science. It's just observation.

 

The human impact on global warming? Of course that isn't completely settled. 

what is missing to completely settle the matter in your mind? 

 

 

10 minutes ago, bcking said:

Are we going to gain any more certainty in the near future though? Probably not.

 

Many times in science you have to make decisions based on information that is still "unsettled" to a degree. In the case of changing human behavior to reduce our impact on global warming, I'd say it's worth it at this point. If the science is right, then we are trying to do something. If it's wrong...then we are still reducing our reliance on specific finite resources which isn't a bad thing even ignoring the climate argument.

 

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13 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

what is missing to completely settle the matter in your mind? 

 

 

 

I'm settled in that I think we should respond and work to reduce our impact. I don't think the science will change enough to sway that decision.

 

The science itself will never be settled though.

 

I'm just comfortable making decisions with uncertainty. Pretty much 90% or more of what I do in my job has at least some degree of uncertainty. Some things more than others. Medicine is full of it.

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3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

what is missing to completely settle the matter in your mind? 

 

 

 

I know you didn't ask me, but 100 million years worth of proof pretty much cinches for me the idea that the climate swings, and wildly, without man's input.

 

Do we have a bearing on the current climate?  Sure.  But I think the forces of nature are WAY more influential than anything we can do.  To suggest otherwise is simply grandstanding, or chest-thumping.  We are not even bags of chips,  let alone all of that.

 

Mankind gives NOTHING to this planet, we only take from it.  But I think at our worst, we are a veritable joke against the rest of the forces of nature. 

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8 hours ago, bcking said:

Pretty much all science is unsettled...to different degrees.

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