Putin ordered a nerve agent attack in the UK. Trump invited him to the White House anyway.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/2/17188478/trump-invites-putin-white-house-visit

 

President Trump is willing to hold a rare face-to-face meeting with Russian strongman Vladimir Putin despite growing evidence that Moscow poisoned an ex-spy and his daughter near their homes in the UK, an attack that has plunged relations between Russia and the West to their lowest point in years.

The two leaders discussed a potential meeting during a March 20 phone call, a conversation that the Kremlin and White House disclosed for the first time today. Neither the time nor the location of the potential meeting has been finalized, and it’s possible the summit won’t happen. That doesn’t make the prospect of the two men sitting down together any less jarring.

Here’s why: Meetings with a US president are a major honor for any world leader, even one as powerful in his home country as Putin. Trump was offering the Russian strongman a reward at the same time the US was working with other countries to punish Russia for the nerve agent attack on a former Soviet spy. And while it’s not odd for US presidents and Russian leaders to meet, dangling a potential face-to-face meeting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue could make Putin conclude that he has little to fear from the US and its allies for the attack.

The potential meeting comes against the backdrop of an attack that was audacious, even for Putin. On March 4, Sergei Skripal, a former Soviet and Russian spy, was found unconscious on a bench next to his daughter Yulia in the English city of Salisbury. Ten days later, the UK announced that it was kicking 23 Russian diplomats out of the country because London blamed Moscow for the attack. (Moscow denies any involvement in the strike, unsurprisingly and unpersuasively.)

And on March 26, the US expelled 60 Russian intelligence officers and closed a Russian consulate in Seattle. More than 20 other countries followed suit, saying they would kick out over 100 Russian spies. Even New Zealand tried to kick out Russian spies but couldn’t find any. Russia announced its own retaliation, removing 150 Western diplomats from the country on March 29 — effectively a like-for-like response.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

What is exactly this "growing" evidence?

They showed us none, so far.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 minute ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

What is exactly this "growing" evidence?

They showed us none, so far.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

15 minutes ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

What is exactly this "growing" evidence?

They showed us none, so far.

 

14 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

 

Why are you guys so quick to stick up for a thug when it is clear he is behind the poisoning  ?

 

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

 

 

Why are you guys so quick to stick up for a thug when it is clear he is behind the poisoning  ?

 

I'm not sticking up, I just want to see some undeniable evidence. Show me CCTV footage of known Russian operatives putting the nerve agent at the Skripals' doorsteps and I'd be satisfied.

Either way, this is nothing new.

The "meddling with US elections" is just laughable. The CIA meddled with pretty much every country elections. And they used something more tangible than social media.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

I'm not sticking up, I just want to see some undeniable evidence. Show me CCTV footage of known Russian operatives putting the nerve agent at the Skripals' doorsteps and I'd be satisfied.

Either way, this is nothing new.

The "meddling with US elections" is just laughable. The CIA meddled with pretty much every country elections. And they used something more tangible than social media.

 

Suit yourself, I feel it is dangerous to be naive about the situation. 

[RogVal03/05/2017 0]

And you have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that it was Russia and Putin or are you just anxious to vilify Russia and make them an enemy ? Your basic everyday Russian is actually a very decent human being 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

8 minutes ago, RogVal03/05/2017 said:

And you have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that it was Russia and Putin or are you just anxious to vilify Russia and make them an enemy ? Your basic everyday Russian is actually a very decent human being 

1. I personally have no proof, the British government seems convinced.

2. I have great respect for the people of Russia, the thug who runs the country not so much. 

3. Reasonable doubt is a great standard for criminal conviction, not a great risk management plan. 

4. I have yet to see another viable theory how the victims came in contact with a nerve agent that was created in the former Soviet Union.

[Jacque67 7,328]

The Russian embassy in the UK is going nuts with propaganda. 

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

1 minute ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

1. I personally have no proof, the British government seems convinced.

2. I have great respect for the people of Russia, the thug who runs the country not so much. 

3. Reasonable doubt is a great standard for criminal conviction, not a great risk management plan. 

4. I have yet to see another viable theory how the victims came in contact with a nerve agent that was created in the former Soviet Union.

It's a sad state of affairs when Americans reflexively leap to the defense of a corrupt state rather than consider the intelligence of our greatest ally. Whatever,  everyone's an expert on geopolitical affairs and espionage these days.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Also this. 

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2-800-russian-bots-sowed-confusion-after-poison-attacks-zf6lvb3nc

 

Lavrov even suggested the British government did it to distract from the Brexit/CA scandal.

 

the Kremlin loves deza and kompromat. With Trump's weakness for the ladies of the night, you think Putin doesn't have anything on him???

[Jacque67 7,328]

They're quite the propaganda machine. I'm sure they drink vodka 24/7! Here's a classic

 

 

[Boiler 45,535]

7 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

 

 

 

Good point.

 

Has been a long time since I did my Chemistry O Level,  how come they are not dead as a dodo? This is the State of the Art of Russian Chemical Warfare?

[eieio 1,594]

Well....I agree with one thing. Having a meeting with Trump is about the greatest honor any individual can have.