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Women need to learn how to be only partially pregnant.

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Quite normal procedure for cruise ships infact we needed to have a form completed by her OBGYN to present when we were boarding because of her pregnancy. If we didn’t have it we would have been SOL. 

 

So I think this incident is on the passenger for not going sooner or realizing that you need to check on things like this when pregnant.

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5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Women need to learn how to be only partially pregnant.

Or maybe learn to read. I seriously can't fault Disney for any of this...it was posted clearly, who books something that costs a pretty penny and doesn't even bother reading that? Or worse, maybe reads it and just ignores it?

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Pretty sure when completing the online booking it asks if you are pregnant.

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9 hours ago, Jacque67 said:

Just googled this trouble maker. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU2cg2yBMTI

 

She is just one of those wannabe family youtubers trying to make it big like a couple of other ones out there but obviously she ain't that smart. A couple of the other people don't go around looking for trouble at all like what she did. I for one am glad they were not allowed to board because she would probably be filming the whole time and not spending any quality time with her kids. Plus she is a baby factory, 3 kids by 22 equals baby factory.

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1 hour ago, cyberfx1024 said:

She is just one of those wannabe family youtubers trying to make it big like a couple of other ones out there but obviously she ain't that smart. A couple of the other people don't go around looking for trouble at all like what she did. I for one am glad they were not allowed to board because she would probably be filming the whole time and not spending any quality time with her kids. Plus she is a baby factory, 3 kids by 22 equals baby factory.

Her hubby must be quite the stud.:jest:

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6 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Her hubby must be quite the stud.:jest:

He looks pretty average to me. He ain't like me though 4 good looking kids here.

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On 4/2/2018 at 4:51 PM, charmander said:

Isn't Zika still a big deal? CDC Caribbean travel advisory still active.

 

23 hours ago, charmander said:

I think most people here would agree with Disney's decision, it is clearly posted on their website but if I were here I wouldn't risk going on a Caribbean cruise in the first place during pregnancy since the Zika threat is still active. They also put the Zika threat on the same page. https://disneycruise.disney.go.com/faq/health-safety/pregnant/

 

If she was less than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship due to risk of infectious diseases (Zika included). Though the Zika risk is more concerning in your first trimester.

 

If she was more than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship because if she went into labour her child could survive on land, but would almost absolutely die if delivered on the ship.

 

So either way she should have stayed off. I understand the Cruise Lines not wanting the responsibility of potentially delivering a 24 week infant and having it pass away on the ship.

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2 minutes ago, bcking said:

 

 

If she was less than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship due to risk of infectious diseases (Zika included). Though the Zika risk is more concerning in your first trimester.

 

If she was more than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship because if she went into labour her child could survive on land, but would almost absolutely die if delivered on the ship.

 

So either way she should have stayed off. I understand the Cruise Lines not wanting the responsibility of potentially delivering a 24 week infant and having it pass away on the ship.

She's a baby factory, apparently. 

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16 minutes ago, bcking said:

 

 

If she was less than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship due to risk of infectious diseases (Zika included). Though the Zika risk is more concerning in your first trimester.

 

If she was more than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship because if she went into labour her child could survive on land, but would almost absolutely die if delivered on the ship.

 

So either way she should have stayed off. I understand the Cruise Lines not wanting the responsibility of potentially delivering a 24 week infant and having it pass away on the ship.

Why would a child die if delivered on a ship?

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On ‎4‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:50 PM, Il Mango Dulce said:

The Disney Corp did her future child a great favor. Getting exposed to all those microbes bouncing around the cruise?no thank you.   The entire idea of forfeiting my rights to be imprisoned on your cesspool  and paying for the rights goes against every fiber of my being.

In this I agree with you.  The wife asked me once about doing a cruise, I flatly said no, if she wanted to go on a cruise, she could go by herself.  Cruises are to put it simply, bad.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why would a child die if delivered on a ship?

 

23 minutes ago, bcking said:

 

 

If she was less than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship due to risk of infectious diseases (Zika included). Though the Zika risk is more concerning in your first trimester.

 

If she was more than 24 weeks pregnant I'd probably tell her to stay off the ship because if she went into labour her child could survive on land, but would almost absolutely die if delivered on the ship.

 

So either way she should have stayed off. I understand the Cruise Lines not wanting the responsibility of potentially delivering a 24 week infant and having it pass away on the ship.

Same question?

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37 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why would a child die if delivered on a ship?

The woman was 24 weeks pregnant and it was a 6 day cruise.

 

If the baby was delivered they would be 24-25 weeks. A cruise ship has a medical unit but I wouldn't expect them to have the skills or tools to properly resuscitate an infant that premature. We worry about those being born in rural hospitals, let alone on a cruise ship.

 

Mortality in that age range without antenatal steroids born in a hospital is already high (say 40% at a good hospital). The staff on the cruise ship may be able to intubate an adult but I doubt they would have any experience with an infant that size. Think 600-800 grams. They wouldn't have surfactant, which the child would almost certainly need. They may have a ventilator but that assumes they could intubate. They wouldn't have the environmental set up either.

 

They could stabilize and transfer to a hospital but that would be by air most likely. If the infant did survive they would likely have severe intraventricular hemorrhage from the transportation.

 

I'd say you be safe wait until at least 30 weeks. Ideally 32 or 34 weeks.

 

I realise now it may have seemed like I meant any infant born greater than 24 weeks would die. Didn't mean it that way, sorry. I was thinking about her particular case. 24 weeks a common viability cut off, but 24-28 weeks is still a trying time and you want to be in the right place. Moving those babies can be devastating because of their fragility.

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6 minutes ago, bcking said:

The woman was 24 weeks pregnant and it was a 6 day cruise.

 

If the baby was delivered they would be 24-25 weeks. A cruise ship has a medical unit but I wouldn't expect them to have the skills or tools to properly resuscitate an infant that premature. We worry about those being born in rural hospitals, let alone on a cruise ship.

 

Mortality in that age range without antenatal steroids born in a hospital is already high (say 40% at a good hospital). The staff on the cruise ship may be able to intubate an adult but I doubt they would have any experience with an infant that size. Think 600-800 grams. They wouldn't have surfactant, which the child would almost certainly need. They may have a ventilator but that assumes they could intubate. They wouldn't have the environmental set up either.

 

They could stabilize and transfer to a hospital but that would be by air most likely. If the infant did survive they would likely have severe intraventricular hemorrhage from the transportation.

 

I'd say you be safe wait until at least 30 weeks. Ideally 32 or 34 weeks.

 

I realise now it may have seemed like I meant any infant born greater than 24 weeks would die. Didn't mean it that way, sorry. I was thinking about her particular case. 24 weeks a common viability cut off, but 24-28 weeks is still a trying time and you want to be in the right place. Moving those babies can be devastating because of their fragility.

You mentioned people more that 24 weeks, sounds like you meant between 24 and 25 weeks.

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