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What Part of 'Illegal Immigration' is Confusing?

by Brian Bilbray

Posted 05/03/2007 ET

“Lawlessness is lawlessness. Anarchy is anarchy is anarchy. Neither race nor color nor frustration is an excuse for either lawlessness or anarchy.”

-- Thurgood Marshall, Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court

Around the world, an unacceptable number of families and children live in the most abject and hopeless poverty any of us could imagine. No one can fault any of these people from trying to escape these gut-wrenching conditions and pursuing a better way of life. Certainly we can all agree that more must be done to lift-up countries that are drowning in a sea of their own population unable to attain economic stability. As Congress looks to adopt a new illegal immigration policy, we must not forget that the root of the problem lays within countries that lack the economic and political resources needed to support a fully developed nation.

Two days ago, hundreds of thousands of immigrant-rights supporters marched the streets of major cities throughout the country demanding rights such as citizenship for the more than 12 million illegal immigrants who are currently in our country. The illegal immigration issue has always elicited strong emotions from many people but there is something fundamentally wrong with the idea of rewarding those who have broken our laws with something as precious as citizenship.

The outrage and indignation displayed by yesterday’s marchers would be justified if it were directed at the right government. The United States is not responsible for the conditions millions of would-be immigrants are fleeing from -- yet many activist groups expect us to be held accountable for a third-world environment overrun with corruption and poverty we did not create. We could grant a mass amnesty right now and it still would not change any of the social, political and economic conditions that are driving people away from their home countries.

When examining illegal immigration reform in America, I have said numerous times that the key to addressing illegal immigration is removing the economic incentive that attracts so many people to our country. Fundamentally, the reason why the United States is such an attractive destination for immigrants is because of the jobs that we have to offer. Combine that with an illegal immigration enforcement policy that has never been truly enforced and it is easy to see why we have more than 12 million illegal immigrants currently living in our country hoping to fill the jobs that supposedly Americans won’t do. Or, is it that they won’t do these jobs for what employers are willing to pay illegal immigrants?

Candidly, the 12 million illegal immigrants and the millions more looking to come to America are not at fault for the issues we face with illegal immigration. For far too long businesses in this country have been willing participants in an effort to import cheap labor to fill low-skill jobs. The result has been a depressed market for American low-skill workers and a significant financial burden being placed on the backs of middle-class Americans who must now pay for the health care, education and social costs of this new class of illegal workers.

The Federal Government can no longer be a willing accomplice to the circumvention of our federal immigration laws. Ultimately, it is our responsibility to enforce the law and the only way we can address illegal immigration in America is to hold employers and big business accountable as well. This requires the implementation of a employer verification program so we can distinguish between employers who hire illegal immigrants because they don’t know the difference and those who hire illegal immigrants because they want cheap labor. Once an employer verification system is in place, we can crackdown on the employers who are knowingly hiring illegal immigrants.

Solving illegal immigration begins with giving employers the tools they need to verify employment eligibility. This has become increasingly difficult for employers as document fraud has become a widespread problem as employers are ill-equipped to detect and authenticate workers’ identification documents. A universal, non-discriminatory and tamper-resistant Social Security card would be a practical solution to this growing problem. Currently, there are more than 30 types of identification employers can use to verify employment eligibility. By limiting the burden of documentation to just one, uniform card, employers will finally have the tools they need to comply with the law. We need to separate those who are egregiously violating the law and those who do not have the means to enforce and comply with the law.

Once the employment incentive is eliminated, immigrants worldwide will have to look elsewhere for job opportunities and the flood of illegal immigrants coming into our country will subside. Now there is chorus of people in Washington D.C. who do not believe enforcement first will work, but considering that the federal government has never enforced our laws, it is impossible to know what effect real enforcement will have on stemming the illegal immigration tide.

The only thing Congress could do to make the problem worse is offer another incentive for people to leave their home countries and come to the United States. Call it a comprehensive plan, call it a temporary worker program or a pathway to citizenship, call it amnesty -- the results will still be the same. You cannot address our failures in illegal immigration policy by repeating the failed policies of the past. Amnesty hasn’t worked. Neither has ignoring the problem. Why not try the one thing we haven’t done yet? By enforcing our laws, securing our borders and holding employers accountable, we can avoid repeating our mistakes and live up to our country’s promise of being a nation governed by the rule of law.

Congressman Brian Bilbray (R-Carlsbad) is the Chairman of the Immigration Reform Caucus and represents the 50th District of California, a region that neighbors the busiest border in the world.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20531

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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What Part of 'Illegal Immigration' is Confusing?

by Brian Bilbray

Posted 05/03/2007 ET

“Lawlessness is lawlessness. Anarchy is anarchy is anarchy. Neither race nor color nor frustration is an excuse for either lawlessness or anarchy.â€

Excellent article.. All great and valid points..

I do not understand how someone does not realize that by giving them amnesty 'again' you are basically asking for people to come to the US illegally. That is come here illegally and simply stick around for a few years, until the next wave of amnesty comes around.. What a slap in the face amnesty this is for us doing everything by the book.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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What Part of 'Illegal Immigration' is Confusing?

by Brian Bilbray

Posted 05/03/2007 ET

The outrage and indignation displayed by yesterday’s marchers would be justified if it were directed at the right government. The United States is not responsible for the conditions millions of would-be immigrants are fleeing from -- yet many activist groups expect us to be held accountable for a third-world environment overrun with corruption and poverty we did not create. We could grant a mass amnesty right now and it still would not change any of the social, political and economic conditions that are driving people away from their home countries.

What a chopfcuk. Yes, the US has absolutely nothing to do with 3rd world poverty. Just because we're standing on your back doesn't mean you can complain to us if you have a backache! Jeez the nerve.

eta: not calling OP a chopfcuk, but the congressman.

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ok so here is the *sitch* for me since i keep getting referred to as pro-illegal, pro-amnesty, EWI-sympathizer whatever you want to brand it.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH ILLEGAL PRESENCE. what i DO find curious is that our government has taken a blind eye to it, for what? so yes we do have some kind of anarchy because the goverment has failed in enforcing this. More to the point they have utterly failed in holding employers accountable. the government can require SOX compliance due to enron crapheads, but cannot enforce ensuring documents are sound for legal working permits? SOX is one HELL of a cost problem for companies (i should know :innocent: ) .. so why does that get enforced but the companies who employ OTHER kinds of law-breakers not get the same attention, obviously the govenment has cared very little in the past.

hate the game not the player.... there is a pretty substantial demand for illegal workers and if the gov continues to turn a blind eye then people will continue to break the law.

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ok so here is the *sitch* for me since i keep getting referred to as pro-illegal, pro-amnesty, EWI-sympathizer whatever you want to brand it.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH ILLEGAL PRESENCE. what i DO find curious is that our government has taken a blind eye to it, for what? so yes we do have some kind of anarchy because the goverment has failed in enforcing this. More to the point they have utterly failed in holding employers accountable. the government can require SOX compliance due to enron crapheads, but cannot enforce ensuring documents are sound for legal working permits? SOX is one HELL of a cost problem for companies (i should know :innocent: ) .. so why does that get enforced but the companies who employ OTHER kinds of law-breakers not get the same attention, obviously the govenment has cared very little in the past.

hate the game not the player.... there is a pretty substantial demand for illegal workers and if the gov continues to turn a blind eye then people will continue to break the law.

amen!!

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ok so here is the *sitch* for me since i keep getting referred to as pro-illegal, pro-amnesty, EWI-sympathizer whatever you want to brand it.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH ILLEGAL PRESENCE. what i DO find curious is that our government has taken a blind eye to it, for what? so yes we do have some kind of anarchy because the goverment has failed in enforcing this. More to the point they have utterly failed in holding employers accountable. the government can require SOX compliance due to enron crapheads, but cannot enforce ensuring documents are sound for legal working permits? SOX is one HELL of a cost problem for companies (i should know :innocent: ) .. so why does that get enforced but the companies who employ OTHER kinds of law-breakers not get the same attention, obviously the govenment has cared very little in the past.

hate the game not the player.... there is a pretty substantial demand for illegal workers and if the gov continues to turn a blind eye then people will continue to break the law.

Well said. :thumbs:

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I am happy to see at least one Senator stand up for the opinions represented by so many 'Americans'. You know the people who live in America.

Senators, congress, house reps, mayors etc supporting 'illegal immigrants' while turning their backs on 'Americans' and 'their' views is honestly treasonous.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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I forgot what news program I was watching the other night, but the reporter was at the river talking to a man in Mexico about illegal immigration and then the camera panned to a Mexican man swimming across into the US. The current was moving so fast and the man , upon seeing the camera, decided to swim back ashore. He told the reporter he had entered the US on five previous occasions the same way and at that point the camera panned to about five men waiting to be taken across by "coyotes". The "coyotes" then not so subtlety threatened the reporter and the camera panned away.

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I am happy to see at least one Senator stand up for the opinions represented by so many 'Americans'. You know the people who live in America.

Senators, congress, house reps, mayors etc supporting 'illegal immigrants' while turning their backs on 'Americans' and 'their' views is honestly treasonous.

what about employers who hire them>?

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

Peppi_drinking_beer.jpg

my burro, bosco ..enjoying a beer in almaty

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ok so here is the *sitch* for me since i keep getting referred to as pro-illegal, pro-amnesty, EWI-sympathizer whatever you want to brand it.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH ILLEGAL PRESENCE. what i DO find curious is that our government has taken a blind eye to it, for what? so yes we do have some kind of anarchy because the goverment has failed in enforcing this. More to the point they have utterly failed in holding employers accountable. the government can require SOX compliance due to enron crapheads, but cannot enforce ensuring documents are sound for legal working permits? SOX is one HELL of a cost problem for companies (i should know :innocent: ) .. so why does that get enforced but the companies who employ OTHER kinds of law-breakers not get the same attention, obviously the govenment has cared very little in the past.

hate the game not the player.... there is a pretty substantial demand for illegal workers and if the gov continues to turn a blind eye then people will continue to break the law.

Yes our government should crack down on employers that hire illegal workers as pattern and practice.

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what about employers who hire them>?

It is up to congress and the law makers to fix this mess up. It is not that hard to create a system / process to verify an individual's work status. Every other developed country out there seems to be doing fine with such systems..

Which leads me to believe that this is being deliberately stalled by certain people wanting businesses to benefit from illegal immigrants; at the expense of middle and lower class 'Americans'.

Edited by Infidel

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

 

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