US to require would-be immigrants to turn over social media handles

[navj1699 11]

Anyways, Point is crystal clear. The way orange guy's primary focus has been to demolish immigration, He's using this as a distraction for people to not get questioned about administration's incompetency to make America greater!

 

 

Edited March 29, 2018 by navj1699
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[navj1699 11]

19 minutes ago, mcdull said:

I want to expose some hypocrisy here:

 

You want to ban guns because guns kill,  do you also want to ban immigrants because immigrants kill too? 

Dude, Immigrants are humans too and they have same right to earth as we who's born in America!

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

People seem to forget that immigration is key reason he got elected... Don't know how people keep forgetting that. 

[navj1699 11]

Just now, Ben&Zian said:

People seem to forget that immigration is key reason he got elected... Don't know how people keep forgetting that. 

Yep that's right, People don't realise that President's job description is to stop immigration. Other guys should think about development and growth not him. 

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

That post didn't even make a whole lot of sense honestly but okay.

 

You can think whatever you want, same as we can if we like immigration reform and extra scrutiny, security checks, background checks. Is any system perfect? No of course not, and people will try to trick and game the system no matter what. Criminals do it all the time. Does that mean we shouldn't try stricter policies? If so you need to go evaluate what happens in other countries who believe in and practice "open borders" because it hasn't been looking so pretty with their crime rates skyrocketing. Go research a bit and you'll see it isn't exactly the best immigration policy.

 

 

[David & Diana R 1,005]

1 hour ago, Beast333 said:

Well i think you have not read the article.

They are requiring your privacy from last 5 years.

They are not requiring your "privacy".  They may ask to see your histories...and so what?  What does one have to hide?  I have no reason that I would fear the government in looking back at my FaceBook, Skype histories.  They could look all they want.  If it was needed to bring my loved one from another country I would have no problem with it at all.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

1 hour ago, missileman said:

Like was said earlier...Security trumps convenience.

Trumps convenience.  I got that one.  I agree with you 100% missleman

[mcdull 474]

4 minutes ago, navj1699 said:

Yep that's right, People don't realise that President's job description is to stop immigration. Other guys should think about development and growth not him. 

Oh, the hollier-than-thou attitude, I've head it too often on MSNBC.

 

 

[navj1699 11]

2 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

That post didn't even make a whole lot of sense honestly but okay.

 

You can think whatever you want, same as we can if we like immigration reform and extra scrutiny, security checks, background checks. Is any system perfect? No of course not, and people will try to trick and game the system no matter what. Criminals do it all the time. Does that mean we shouldn't try stricter policies? If so you need to go evaluate what happens in other countries who believe in and practice "open borders" because it hasn't been looking so pretty with their crime rates skyrocketing. Go research a bit and you'll see it isn't exactly the best immigration policy.

 

 

Thank you, For making sense. 😃

[Unidentified 2,930]

4 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

That post didn't even make a whole lot of sense honestly but okay.

 

You can think whatever you want, same as we can if we like immigration reform and extra scrutiny, security checks, background checks. Is any system perfect? No of course not, and people will try to trick and game the system no matter what. Criminals do it all the time. Does that mean we shouldn't try stricter policies? If so you need to go evaluate what happens in other countries who believe in and practice "open borders" because it hasn't been looking so pretty with their crime rates skyrocketing. Go research a bit and you'll see it isn't exactly the best immigration policy.

 

 

This right here. And I'll give you a hint towards one country you can start with: Sweden.

[yeahbuddy 20]

14 minutes ago, David & Zoila said:

They are not requiring your "privacy".  They may ask to see your histories...and so what?  What does one have to hide?  I have no reason that I would fear the government in looking back at my FaceBook, Skype histories.  They could look all they want.  If it was needed to bring my loved one from another country I would have no problem with it at all.

What if they see I attended the Women's March and then that puts me on a list of potential troublemakers? What if I've posted in support of abortion and that goes against their morals? What if I have an Instagram full of photoshopped pics of Trump getting pissed on and they're not in the mood to laugh that day? Point is, they need to say what exactly they'll be using this info for, and who will be making those judgement calls. 

 

ETA: Sorry, I just think a criminal background check is good enough, and social media monitoring is already ongoing and managed by other agencies. It doesn't belong in this process, it's too intrusive.

Edited March 29, 2018 by yeahbuddy

[navj1699 11]

2 minutes ago, yeahbuddy said:

What if they see I attended the Women's March and then that puts me on a list of potential troublemakers? What if I've posted in support of abortion and that goes against their morals? What if I have an Instagram full of photoshopped pics of Trump getting pissed on and they're not in the mood to laugh that day? Point is, they need to say what exactly they'll be using this info for, and who will be making those judgement calls. 

Yep that's the right way to see it.

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

9 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

This right here. And I'll give you a hint towards one country you can start with: Sweden.

 

That was in my top three I've read a lot about and statistics... didn't want to mention it directly but, glad at least someone will back it up.

 

And think a lot of people think it's just American's, my husband even thinks it's crazy people don't want stricter immigration and better background checks and all.

He hates hearing about gun control even, thinks it's insane people would want to give up and take rights away.

 

So it isn't just Americans so to say, legal immigrants feel the same way alot too.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

1 minute ago, yeahbuddy said:

What if they see I attended the Women's March and then that puts me on a list of potential troublemakers? What if I've posted in support of abortion and that goes against their morals? What if I have an Instagram full of photoshopped pics of Trump getting pissed on and they're not in the mood to laugh that day? Point is, they need to say what exactly they'll be using this info for, and who will be making those judgement calls. 

It's very simple.  They will be using the information gathered to determine if an intended immigrant is a threat to this great country.  They don't have to tell you, me, or anyone else why they want the information.  If this even happens it's clear the information will be used to ensure the safety of American citizens.  GOD Bless America!  dave  

P.S.  Out of curiosity what other country besides the US has these "women's marches" of which you speak?   

[Dianalorena 1,153]

*grabs popcorn*

 

Honestly, privacy when it comes to social media has always been an illusion. Take what's happening with the whole Facebook fiasco, how they sold personal data to third parties. Every day we agree to publically share our lives and even if we think we're doing it privately. They even know about Visajourney or other immigration forums. We all choose to share information online, and it's public domain. 

 

It's not far-fetched that sharing your facebook or twitter account could play a role during an immigration process. It's free, it's right there. CBP already asks for people's phones when going through airport security, this is how they find discrepancies in people's stories because newsflash, it is known that people can lie about their intentions. Is it fair? many people might not think it is, they're invading your privacy, sure. unfortunately, enough people abuse the system that this becomes a necessity. Just like taking your shoes off because someone hid something at one point. Or body scans. Background checks, the list goes on. 

 

If you don't have anything to hide, this really shouldn't be much of an issue besides the inconvenience of it. I don't think a post complaining about Trump/or about anyone else would be reason enough for denial, as opposed to serious threats,  posts that show the person is clearly unhinged, and content that proves they're scamming people.  Just my two cents, of course.