US to require would-be immigrants to turn over social media handles

[killadocg23 88]

Will this apply to people already in the US doing AOS?

[Dashinka 24,657]

1 minute ago, killadocg23 said:

Will this apply to people already in the US doing AOS?

Quite possibly, but I don’t think that is known yet.  It may also be applied at the N400 stage.  One of the big reasons my wife chooses not to halve any social media accounts.

[AnonIndia 58]

7 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

HI, like I just said, I don't care about opinions. I want facts.

 

If we went around further basing our stances on the opinions of others, we'd be... Exactly where we are. Huh. I'd like to get away from that, at least for my own sanity.

https://www.thenation.com/article/what-if-the-us-really-did-deport-11-million-people/

This is what I found. Paints an apocalyptic picture. 

[killadocg23 88]

7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Quite possibly, but I don’t think that is known yet.  It may also be applied at the N400 stage.  One of the big reasons my wife chooses not to halve any social media accounts.

hmmmm interestingggg. Would like to hear what others think as well

[Dashinka 24,657]

2 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Anyone like myself involved with Information Security know there is no such thing as privacy on the internet.

 

Those IOT devices at home like Alexa are recording you, the IOT cameras are recording you. They can and are hacked on a daily basis, which can lead to a lot of nefarious things going on.

 

The webcams on your computers are recording you, and the microphone is recording you.

 

Any half-wit intelligence service can and will get into these devices to record what they want when they want.

The main reason we have not gone the Alexa route.  We talked about it, but when I reminded Katya about having a device listening to our every word, she agreed.  

[Unidentified 2,930]

6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

There are actually someone from the Netherlands (I know, not Scndanavia) that say they are socialist.  Many countries in Western Europe certainly have a lot of socialist programs, but I don’t know of any that control the economic capital overtly.

Google Nordic Capitalism or Democratic Socialism. (Democratic Socialism is NOT the same as Socialism) 

[Dashinka 24,657]

Just now, killadocg23 said:

hmmmm interestingggg. Would like to hear what others think as well

There was some discussion early in this thread before it got into the immigrants rights discussion.  I had heard it was for visa applicants and possibly AOS.  Not sure about N400, but why chance it.  Social media is just not that important.

[Dashinka 24,657]

Just now, Unidentified said:

Google Nordic Capitalism or Democratic Socialism. (Democratic Socialism is NOT the same as Socialism) 

Actually, I think it is social democracy which is not the same thing as Democratic Socialism.  I know they seem the same, but if you read the sites for DS, they are in favor of controlling economic capital.

[Unidentified 2,930]

9 minutes ago, AnonIndia said:

I don't know the date of the report. It is basic math Jim. If illegals are committing crimes at the same level as US citizens or lower the percentage of federal prisoners should be 3.14% or lower. That's not the case. It is 20% as clearly seen in the report that 1 in 5 are not US citizens. 

Not if the entire report is only based on the number of illegal immigrants. Then that's the only thing you'll see. If you're not going to give me facts/sources I think we're done here. 

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Actually, I think it is social democracy which is not the same thing as Democratic Socialism.  I know they seem the same, but if you read the sites for DS, they are in favor of controlling economic capital.

it's one of those and definitely not socialist. We have a socialist political party in Sweden but the country is not a communist country.

[Dashinka 24,657]

4 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Google Nordic Capitalism or Democratic Socialism. (Democratic Socialism is NOT the same as Socialism) 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511042313

 

Democratic Socialism vs Social Democracy

[AnonIndia 58]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

Not if the entire report is only based on the number of illegal immigrants. Then that's the only thing you'll see. If you're not going to give me facts/sources I think we're done here. 

I don't understand. The report is illegal vs US citizen federal prisoners. By having one part of the equation you will have the pother. One in 5 federal prisoners are illegals. The other 4 out of 5 must be US citizens. What else are they gonna be? Penguins? 

[Jaquelly 1,647]

8 minutes ago, AnonIndia said:

https://www.thenation.com/article/what-if-the-us-really-did-deport-11-million-people/

This is what I found. Paints an apocalyptic picture. 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-nation/

 

I do not count anything from a newspaper as research. I want actual academic studies, things like that. Don't be fooled by what they feed you. Do the work for yourself.

[Dashinka 24,657]

Just now, Unidentified said:

it's one of those and definitely not socialist. We have a socialist political party in Sweden but the country is not a communist country.

Exactly, check out the link I provided.  SD does it in a capitalistic economy (like Nordic countries) and DS does it in a socialist framework, not sure I know of a country that uses DS right now.

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Exactly, check out the link I provided.  SD does it in a capitalistic economy (like Nordic countries) and DS does it in a socialist framework, not sure I know of a country that uses DS right now.

I get confused too as we have a socialist democratic party and then when I just did a quick google search (should have been more observant) it said is Democratic Socialism. 

Edited March 30, 2018 by Unidentified