Wasserman Schultz wants background checks for ammunition buyers

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5 hours ago, Sonea said:

Yes, its the internet sales that is the issue. Background check laws end internet sales for the most part, other than the possibility of sending to an FFL.

 

For most shooters its probably not the end of the world and is good business for local shops. If you like older / rarer firearms it cuts you off though as many aren't carried in stores.

 

I'll mention we live in a state that just implemented them and there is a bit of a workaround. If you have an FFL03 and COE it exempts you from the law. I'm working on the latter part of it so I can be exempt. Until then we have upped our reloading amounts.

I used to hold the C&R FFL (now FFL 03 I believe?).  It was handy for shipping and discounts, and the records required were nowhere near as stringent as the FFL requires.  (And no minimum of sales).

 

Not sure any of it is worth the hassle anymore.  But I’d like to know what you think once the process is over and you’re approved!

Edited March 28, 2018 by IDWAF

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5 hours ago, bcking said:

An interesting analogy. A couple of things -

 

1. For drugs of high risk if abuse, a physician should be individually evaluating their patients for the need of that drug, and their risk. That includes a social/mental health evaluation. We feel much more comfortable when people have a support network etc... I know many pain medicine doctors who wouldn't prescribe narcotics in people who have mental health/social red flags.

 

Compare that to our current system for guns that is pretty much just focused on criminal history. 

 

2. A doctor doesn't prescribe a drug and then never see the patient again. For high risk meds you give small amounts (a month at a time) and they keep coming back.

 

Once someone buys a gun, there is no repeat check up unless they want to buy another. Perhaps a BG check on ammo could help because that is something that needs to be continually purchased as you use the gun?

I like the idea of BG checks for ammo from the standpoint of regular BG checks being done, I think that is a good thing.
 

Just bought some AR-15 lowers today, and was asking the salesperson about their BG check policy.  As with many states, having a CCW permit makes the BG check optional, but he said as a matter of principle, if the CCW is over one year old (they are often issued for 5 years) the store does a BG check anyway.  Good call, I think.

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9 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I used to hold the C&R FFL (now FFL 03 I believe?).  It was handy for shipping and discounts, and the records required were nowhere near as stringent as the FFL requires.  (And no minimum of sales).

 

Not sure any of it is worth the hassle anymore.  But I’d like to know what you think once the process is over and you’re approved!

I have the FFL (had it for about 9 months now). Its the COE from the state that is the difficult part. I need to pay about 70.00 for a livescan of my fingerprints.

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14 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I like the idea of BG checks for ammo from the standpoint of regular BG checks being done, I think that is a good thing.
 

Just bought some AR-15 lowers today, and was asking the salesperson about their BG check policy.  As with many states, having a CCW permit makes the BG check optional, but he said as a matter of principle, if the CCW is over one year old (they are often issued for 5 years) the store does a BG check anyway.  Good call, I think.

I don't know anything about this CCW. How long does it last?

 

Prescriptions for opioids require refills, you have to keep going back. Using that analogy, should we have more frequent rechecks? That's where I think maybe an ammo based BG check may help.

 

I think there is some common sense stuff that can be done. People on both extremes just have simmer down.

Edited March 29, 2018 by bcking

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4 minutes ago, bcking said:

I don't know anything about this CCW. How long does it last?

 

Prescriptions for opioids require refills, you have to keep going back. Using that analogy, should we have more frequent rechecks? That's where I think maybe an ammo based BG check may help.

 

I think there is some common sense stuff that can be done. People on both extremes just have simmer down.

Concealed Carry Weapon permits vary by state.  (Wish it was one universal system, but there are a few states that prevent that from happening).  You do a background check, and pay your fee.  In my state, I can buy one year at a time, or up to 5 years max.  I went with 5 years so I don’t have to go back every year.  (Love the states with 5 year registration on vehicles, too!)

 

Every time you apply to extend, you are subject to the NCIS BG check, and have to answer all the same questions as you do when you buy a gun (hence most stores not doing a BG check if your CCW is recent).