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13 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

You lefties can do all the mental gymnastics you want to justify it but regardless of whether it is legal or not planned parenthood ended 323,999 human lives in 2014 alone. All the word games in the world don't change that fact. In fact the only thing the left is truly pro choice on is killing unborn babies. They are pro government choice on almost everything else.

What does this have to do with the March for Life?

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8 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

What does this have to do with the March for Life?

Go back a few posts when IDWAF posted a meme about the left being hypocritical when they claim to be for the children but allow planned parenthood to do what they do. Then smilesammich came along and questioned the validity of a statistic in the meme. I was simply pointing out that statistic is indeed factually accutate. I know. A couple degrees of separation from the original topic but it isn't totally off topic.

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18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   FYI, an unborn child is called a fetus. It's not mental gymnastics, it's a little thing called a fact. It's best to get a grip on facts, so as to avoid posting misinformation like that. The rest of your hyperbole is not worth responding to.

Ok so if you replace the word "kids"(which let's be honest here, everyone knows what "kids" means in the context of the meme) with whatever word you want to put in it's place and leave the rest the same would you still have an issue with the statistical fact being presented? 

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10 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Ok so if you replace the word "kids"(which let's be honest here, everyone knows what "kids" means in the context of the meme) with whatever word you want to put in it's place and leave the rest the same would you still have an issue with the statistical fact being presented? 

 

  It seems like bit of a red herring with a side of hyperbole to detract from the actual topic.

 

  I'm not sure of the point to all these types of posts. Abortions exist so gun violence is not relevant? Alcohol related accidents happen so gun regulations won't work? I don't follow the rationale with some of these posts, but I suspect that is the intent of posting them. It's interesting to me how many people join a conversation about firearms violence and proceed to discuss anything but firearms violence. 

 

   

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47 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  It seems like bit of a red herring with a side of hyperbole to detract from the actual topic.

 

  I'm not sure of the point to all these types of posts. Abortions exist so gun violence is not relevant? Alcohol related accidents happen so gun regulations won't work? I don't follow the rationale with some of these posts, but I suspect that is the intent of posting them. It's interesting to me how many people join a conversation about firearms violence and proceed to discuss anything but firearms violence. 

 

   

Because “firearm violence” is so statistically small as to be irrelevant.  Even more so when you look at “mass murders”.  Posted elsewhere before, I think mass murders make up something like 0.0001% (maybe it was 0.0001%).  As in next to nothing, statistically.  

 

Granted, the families of those killed will never see it that way, but I suspect the families of teens killed while driving intexticated, or who committed suicide, or any other much higher rate-of-death causes, and I am not trying to take away from their personal grief or say it shouldn’t be better than it is.  But... statistically speaking, it’s a non-event as compared to other ways of dying.  

 

And yet, some people want to make it sound like SO MANY are dying daily due to guns, which is a false narrative in and of itself.  Guns don’t kill, people do.  But some refuse to admit that the problem lies with us as humans, not the weapon of choice. 

 

And when I read stuff like this: http://abc7.com/3278558/   It just convinces me even more that there are some really messed up individuals out there.

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5 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  It seems like bit of a red herring with a side of hyperbole to detract from the actual topic.

 

  I'm not sure of the point to all these types of posts. Abortions exist so gun violence is not relevant? Alcohol related accidents happen so gun regulations won't work? I don't follow the rationale with some of these posts, but I suspect that is the intent of posting them. It's interesting to me how many people join a conversation about firearms violence and proceed to discuss anything but firearms violence. 

 

   

I think they all are relevant as it shows the cultural shift in America relating to the fact that there is a lessening respect for life.

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15 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Go back a few posts when IDWAF posted a meme about the left being hypocritical when they claim to be for the children but allow planned parenthood to do what they do. Then smilesammich came along and questioned the validity of a statistic in the meme. I was simply pointing out that statistic is indeed factually accutate. I know. A couple degrees of separation from the original topic but it isn't totally off topic.

just to clarify, i didn't question the validity of the statistic, there were no statistics posted. there was some meme posted about planned parenthood killing babies, which is basically nothing more than some good ol fashioned nonsensical virtue signalling from the right ;)

like i said, why isn't anyone bringing up murder charges for all these dead babies?

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1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

just to clarify, i didn't question the validity of the statistic, there were no statistics posted. there was some meme posted about planned parenthood killing babies, which is basically nothing more than some good ol fashioned nonsensical virtue signalling from the right ;)

How is it virtue signalling? The meme states how many abortions are carried out. The statistics back up that number.

 

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

like i said, why isn't anyone bringing up murder charges for all these dead babies?

Because unfortunately it is not illegal to kill a baby before it is born.

11 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think they all are relevant as it shows the cultural shift in America relating to the fact that there is a lessening respect for life.

Agreed.

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1 minute ago, jg121783 said:

How is it virtue signalling? The meme states how many abortions are carried out. The statistics back up that number.

 

Because unfortunately it is not illegal to kill a baby before it is born.

 

how? the words used in the meme, stating that planned parenthood murders children which is an outright lie.

 

oh but it is, did you not see the link bill posted? 

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13 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think they all are relevant as it shows the cultural shift in America relating to the fact that there is a lessening respect for life.

 It seems to me that many folks who push their moral agenda ( annoying but their right) get silent or even hostile when the topics of prenatal care, neonatal followups ,  childcare policy, folic acid drops, head start , contraception,  family leave come up.  All of a sudden they think the government should not be involved in the process and women to leverage these things ( from whatever funding source) are immoral or not worthy.  Funny (not) but the most obnoxious voices in the room are men like Rush Limbaugh. 

 

Here is my opportunity to push back with my own bit of moral high-horsedness (turn about is fair play):  If someone wants to claim they are all about life and the respect for it, then let that respect move past the point of  birth.

 

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12 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Why is it called “planned parenthood”, when it seems what the mostly do is prevent people from becoming parents?

Regardless of what they are called or why, the services they provide go far beyond contraception and terminations.

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