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US representatives moved swiftly into denial mode in the wake of Monday's New York Times

claim that homeland security secretary Michael Chertoff had proposed excluding UK citizens

"of Pakistani origin" from the US visa waiver programme. The visa waiver programme allows

visa-free travel to the US for citizens from a select group of countries, and comes under

regular fire from log-rolling US politicians.

But the US rejects profiling, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security told

BBC radio yesterday, while today, US London Embassy consul general John Caulfield denied

that Chertoff had made the comments attributed to him by the NYT. Which is a puzzle, given

that the NYT didn't attribute any comments directly to Chertoff. But it does look as if any plan

to exclude UK-Pakistani citizens from the programme won't fly, because of the strength of the

denials and for reasons of practicality and politics.

What, for example, might one mean by "of Pakistani origin"? The presence of such people,

whoever they are, on the programme is described as a "loophole", but a precise definition is

tricky. The DHS could to an extent nail down a list by confining it to British citizens who were

born in Pakistan, but that wouldn't exactly get them very far, considering that this doesn't apply

to quite a few of those who've been convicted in the current wave of high profile UK terror trials.

Many of these were British born, and others are of non-Pakistani origin and/or ancestry.

Dhiren Barot, for example, the "gas limo bomber" who was implausibly claimed to be the

security services' biggest al-Qaeda pinch so far, is a muslim convert of Indian origin, while

the July 21st defendants included an Eritrean and a Somali. Omar Khyam, "pivotal" in the

fertiliser bomb plot, was born in the UK 25 years ago into a Pakistani family with "a tradition

of serving in the Pakistani military and the ISI, the intelligence service" (Guardian 1st May 2007),

and trained in a "terror" camp in Pakistan in 2000. This, unfortunately, turns out to have been

an ISI-sponsored camp for Kashmiri militants.

Essentially, if the DHS wanted to exclude those it deems a terror risk it would have to consider

ancestry, and figure out what to do about all of those suspicious characters who were neither

Pakistan born nor of Pakistani ancestry. Dark complexioned muslims then? Tricky, but not

necessarily wildly out of line with what happens to them already at US immigration. Or how

about people with a history of travelling to and from Pakistan?

Now, in our estimation this is a little closer to what's really happening. First of all, look not at

the fallout but at what the NYT story actually said:

"Among the options that have been put on the table, according to British officials, was the

most onerous option to Britain, that of canceling the entire visa waiver program that allows

all Britons entry to the United States without a visa. Another option, politically fraught as it is,

would be to single out Britons of Pakistani origin, requiring them to make visa applications for

the United States."

Note that these are not 'either/or' options. They are proposals tabled as part of discussions

with the UK Home Office, and they're both effectively unthinkable, cancellation of the programme

being a nuclear option regularly deployed in talks with the EU, but not something the US could

do without costing itself a bundle in lost business and tourist spend.* Excluding Pakistani Brits

from the programme we've already seen is unworkable, and would come with the additional

payload of undermining the US relationship with Pakistan itself, a key ally in the GWOT

(honest, the ISI's on our side really). They're both negotiating ploys.

Now, check what the NYT says the British Government says:

"Rather than impose any visa restrictions, the British government has told Washington it would

prefer if the Americans simply deported Britons who failed screening once they arrived at an

airport in the United States, British officials said. The British also screen at their end, and share

intelligence with the Americans."

Should you feel tempted to join sections of the UK media in tentatively congratulating the

Home Office on its tough stance against the US threats, consider what this means in terms of

the third degree and summary expulsion for the people whose rights it's 'defending.' Then take

into account the fact that one of Chertoff's major concerns with the UK and Europe over the

past few years has been to increase the amount of data the US gets on EU citizens visiting the

US and to encourage countries to "assist the United States in doing effective checks on travelers"

(statement, 28th November 2006).

Significantly, in 'rejecting' profiling yesterday the DHS spokesman said that the DHS does "see

value in profiling based on behaviour", and came up with the weird example of "going in and out

of the bathroom repeatedly." He did not specify whether or not frequency of urination and

Heathrow CCTV records would be added to the passenger name records currently supplied to

the US by airlines, but the DHS is clearly keen to collect a lot more data about potential visitors,

and this push for better security based on more intensive behavioural profiling has been a

common thread in US responses to the visa waiver story over the past two days.

So what have we got? Data hungry US officials in talks with data sharing crazy UK Home

Secretary John Reid. UK-Pakistani citizens will surely be 'saved' from expulsion from the waiver

programme, but the price will be further easing of the already doubtful restrictions on data

sharing with the US, and increased, systematic scrutiny of muslim, sorry, UK-Pakistani visitors

to the US. But they're being behaviorally, not racially, profiled.

* Continuing to qualify for the waiver programme is habitually trotted out by HMG as a core

justification for blowing £20 billion or more on a national ID scheme. So getting kicked off the

programme would almost be worth it for the entertainment value of watching them try to explain

why that wasn't the point after all.

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Filed: Timeline
Posted

I heard that report on Radio 4 the other day, and the US official's denials.

Relax; there's no way they can exclude people of Pakistani origin from the VWP. It's ridiculous on its face, and irresponsible of the NYT and the BBC to suggest otherwise.

24 June 2007: Leaving day/flying to Dallas-Fort Worth

 

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