California to sue Trump admin over citizenship question in 2020 census

[spookyturtle 9,466]

3 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

This only applies within the confines of the subchapters in bold. So I ask you again what do those subchapters say?

Chapter II speaks of  the census and that it is a census of population, not registered voters as you keep claiming. Perhaps you are intentionally being obtuse. 

[yuna628 9,712]

2 hours ago, IDWAF said:

How many is "a lot"?

 

I was brought up in a religious background, and never once heard any fear mongering about census takers.   

 

That being said, I have never seen a census taker nor ever received any surveys in my life.  May be due to me moving around a fair amount,  IDK.

A lot. I have a feeling our religious backgrounds are very different.

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I am sure all those evangelicals sit around all day and practice, Census taker at the door drills .. 

Ummm.... well, yes some do practice drills with their children, especially homeschool children. Never to open the door, as it could be a census taker or even CPS. This amuses you I know. There's shades of crazy to be found in some religious communities.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

19 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

A lot. I have a feeling our religious backgrounds are very different.

Ummm.... well, yes some do practice drills with their children, especially homeschool children. Never to open the door, as it could be a census taker or even CPS. This amuses you I know. There's shades of crazy to be found in some religious communities.

Boy I tell you what. ! These evangelical friends of yours got some serious census taker phobias.

 

What are the odds of a census worker coming to your door. Very low I am sure 

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Chapter II speaks of  the census and that it is a census of population, not registered voters as you keep claiming. Perhaps you are intentionally being obtuse. 

I never once used the term "registered voters". I simply said that under the law there is no obligation to provide any information besides how many people live in your house. You are trying to argue the law requires you to answer every question on the census. Subsection II of chapter 5 supports my position. You have yet to present anything that supports your position.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

I never once used the term "registered voters". I simply said that under the law there is no obligation to provide any information besides how many people live in your house. You are trying to argue the law requires you to answer every question on the census. Subsection II of chapter 5 supports my position. You have yet to present anything that supports your position.

You’re wrong. I know it , you know it an so does everyone else. 

[jg121783 3,921]

32 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

You’re wrong. I know it , you know it an so does everyone else. 

Ok then show me how I'm wrong. Show me the law that supports your position that every question on a census must be answered by law. You can't just post part of a law then ignore the subsections that govern that part of the law.

 

Show me what the penalty is for not answering every question. Then if you somehow manage to do that which you won't explain to me how this ficticous law doesn't conflict with the 5th amendment. You can't and you won't. I know it, you know it and everyone else knows it.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

6 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Ok then show me how I'm wrong. Show me the law that supports your position that every question on a census must be answered by law. You can't just post part of a law then ignore the subsections that govern that part of the law.

 

Show me what the penalty is for not answering every question. Then if you somehow manage to do that which you won't explain to me how this ficticous law doesn't conflict with the 5th amendment. You can't and you won't. I know it, you know it and everyone else knows it.

 Wow.

Edited March 30, 2018 by spookyturtle

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Boy I tell you what. ! These evangelical friends of yours got some serious census taker phobias.

 

What are the odds of a census worker coming to your door. Very low I am sure 

higher if you do not return the form, they will find you.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Just now, Il Mango Dulce said:

higher if you do not return the form, they will find you.

NRFU. Non response follow up. These are the census takers most people are talking about. If you send in your form, no one is coming to your door. And for the 2010 census, there was address canvassing/ verification where a census worker GPS map spotted every home, apartment building... going door to door but not knocking. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

NRFU. Non response follow up. These are the census takers most people are talking about. If you send in your form, no one is coming to your door. And for the 2010 census, there was address canvassing/ verification where a census worker GPS map spotted every home, apartment building... going door to door but not knocking. 

And yet the government cannot seem to find some 13,000,000 illegal aliens and deport them.   Hmmmmm

[spookyturtle 9,466]

13 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

And yet the government cannot seem to find some 13,000,000 illegal aliens and deport them.   Hmmmmm

Quite true. But then I question whether they really want to find them. 

Edited March 31, 2018 by spookyturtle

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

Quite true. But then I question whether they really want to find them. 

It’s pretty obvious they don’t.  If they did, there would be one less thing to polarize voters.