U.S. Army Veteran Deported to Mexico After 2 Tours in Afghanistan

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1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

agreed. and he served his sentence. he should not be deported.

 

Do you feel that all mexican citizens who violate US law should be allowed to remain in the US after being convicted?

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1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

 anyone who serves in the us military for the united states should be considered a citizen. it's pretty basic to me. who cares about being a veteran? obviously not you. i do.

When you are president, perhaps you can work to change the current law.  However, that has never been the case in US history.

 

However, if one serves ONE SINGLE DAY in the military today, they qualify to naturalize.  So it’s pretty much a done deal, just have to file that pesky little N400.  Is it really all that hard to do?  

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2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I’m sure you love twisting up the semantics all day.  

 

The fact is, he served most of his sentence and was deported, just like any other mexican felon.  Just as any USC would have served most of their sentence, and would not be deported.  Most here have no problem understanding which really matters.  

 

(FWIW, “most of” & “over half” can be interpreted to mean the exact same thing, assuming the original sentence length does not change.  Pretty much no one serves their entire sentences, except lifers.  But of course, you already knew that, and knew full well what I meant when I wrote the above.  I’m just trying to simplify the facts so all here can see the situation for what it really is.)

you didn't say 'over half' you said ' a little over half' and 'served most of it'  

applied to any jobs at cnn lately ? your style of presentation of facts would be a good fit.

2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Do you feel that all mexican citizens who violate US law should be allowed to remain in the US after being convicted?

did they all serve in the us military?

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45 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Do you know this guy personally?  Do you know if any of the drugs he was peddling killed anyone?

Selling drugs on the street is ok, it’s such a liberating feeling.  That it might wreck others’ lives matters not, this guy was a VETERAN!  It’s his constitutional right to engage in entrepreneurship.  ‘Murica!

 

(We do know he got kicked out of the military on drug charges, and he got deported for trafficking drugs.  What we don’t know is how many lives he ruined with his drugs, nor if he actually killed anyone in the trafficking trade.  I hear this happens quite often.  Another scumbag off the streets, but we’re supposed to feel sorry for him???  Only here...)

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7 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you didn't say 'over half' you said ' a little over half' and 'served most of it'  

applied to any jobs at cnn lately ? your style of presentation of facts would be a good fit.

did they all serve in the us military?

I’m pretty sure most don’t.  

 

So what’s your answer?  Do you feel that all mexican citizens who violate US law should be allowed to remain in the US after being convicted?

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4 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I’m pretty sure most don’t.  

 

So what’s your answer?  Do you feel that all mexican citizens who violate US law should be allowed to remain in the US after being convicted?

i've answered this already. i'm talking about veterans.

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7 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i've answered this already. i'm talking about veterans.

No, you answered my question with a question (goes to M.O., Your Honor).

 

Doesn’t matter.  The rules are very clear, and you’re not required to agree with them.  US Vets who break the law can be sent to jail, and will not be deported.  Foreign Vets who break the law can be sent to jail, and in certain cases, deported.  Serving in the military does not,  nor shall it ever, allow one to get away with crime, nor does it afford immigrants any special treatment, other than the ability to naturalize within a day vs. 3 or 5 years.

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19 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

No, you answered my question with a question (goes to M.O., Your Honor).

 

Doesn’t matter.  The rules are very clear, and you’re not required to agree with them.  US Vets who break the law can be sent to jail, and will not be deported.  Foreign Vets who break the law can be sent to jail, and in certain cases, deported.  Serving in the military does not,  nor shall it ever, allow one to get away with crime, nor does it afford immigrants any special treatment, other than the ability to naturalize within a day vs. 3 or 5 years.

because you were moving the goal post. something i do not allow in my court. you may now take a seat.

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23 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

No, you answered my question with a question (goes to M.O., Your Honor).

 

Doesn’t matter.  The rules are very clear, and you’re not required to agree with them.  US Vets who break the law can be sent to jail, and will not be deported.  Foreign Vets who break the law can be sent to jail, and in certain cases, deported.  Serving in the military does not,  nor shall it ever, allow one to get away with crime, nor does it afford immigrants any special treatment, other than the ability to naturalize within a day vs. 3 or 5 years.

again, he didn't get away with a crime. he was imprisoned.

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10 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

again, he didn't get away with a crime. he was imprisoned.

And deported, as is per US law.

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2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

And deported, as is per US law.

so i'm not sure where you're getting all this 'allowed to get away with crime' nonsense.

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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

so i'm not sure where you're getting all this 'allowed to get away with crime' nonsense.

The same place you get your “all vets should be USC” nonsense.

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Just now, IDWAF said:

The same place you get your “all vets should be USC” nonsense.

if someone is willing to sacrifice their life for a country, they should be granted citizenship of that country. i fail to see the nonsensical in that.

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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

if someone is willing to sacrifice their life for a country, they should be granted citizenship of that country. i fail to see the nonsensical in that.

So only LPR vets that serve in active combat?

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

So only LPR vets that serve in active combat?

That is what she said.