Trump signs $1.3 trillion spending bill despite earlier threat to veto

[Boiler 46,025]

2 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

More people voted for Hillary than Donnie, so I suppose people could vote for Hillary over Donnie.

Rather proves the point, how can you take seriously people who voted Crooked?

[Dashinka 24,767]

3 hours ago, bcking said:

You can't just randomly choose who is the "cause".

 

If the Legislature sent a bill to the President's desk and he vetoes it, he is the cause. He can't bull his way around that. Likely why he didn't veto.

It is called political spin.  Everyone in Washington does it.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Rather proves the point, how can you take seriously people who voted Crooked?

Donnie is far more crooked than crooked.

[Dashinka 24,767]

1 minute ago, JimandChristy said:

Donnie is far more crooked than crooked.

Since she was the one actually conspiring with the Russians via a UK agent, that sentiment seems off.

[jg121783 3,921]

You want to see crooked look at the Clinton foundation.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

5 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

You want to see crooked look at the Clinton foundation.

Look at the Trump Foundation, look at Trump University. Donnie is much more crooked than Hillary.

[jg121783 3,921]

6 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Look at the Trump Foundation, look at Trump University. Donnie is much more crooked than Hillary.

You are aware under 10% of the money the Clinton foundation takes in actually goes to charity right?

[Dashinka 24,767]

5 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

You are aware under 10% of the money the Clinton foundation takes in actually goes to charity right?

Bill, Hillary and Chelsea have to make money somehow.  

 

[Jacque67 7,328]

Cambridge Analytica and Putin deserve more praise.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

Just now, Jacque67 said:

Cambridge Analytica and Putin deserve more praise.

Oh yeah keep forgetting Putin is President of the United States, Donnie is President in name only.

[Jacque67 7,328]

1 minute ago, JimandChristy said:

Oh yeah keep forgetting Putin is President of the United States, Donnie is President in name only.

Putin's puppet.

what do the Mercers want? 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

2 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Putin's puppet.

what do the Mercers want? 

[Jacque67 7,328]

5 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Nix, Bannon and the Mercers sure knew their target audience . Kogan, too. Well done signing this Trump. Golf 4ever.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 hours ago, Boiler said:

Rather proves the point, how can you take seriously people who voted Crooked?

Because the other choice was DJT.  I have no idea how t Trump folk can take themselves serious. Different Strokes i guess.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 hours ago, jg121783 said:

You are aware under 10% of the money the Clinton foundation takes in actually goes to charity right?  

We were not aware of that because it is nonsense.  90% of the money goes to Charitable clauses.  How is that Trump foundation doing?  

 

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/17/498154413/theres-really-no-comparison-between-the-trump-and-clinton-foundations

The Clinton Foundation and the Trump Foundation have similar-sounding names. And they've both become political targets in this election cycle. Beyond that, charities experts say, they have remarkably little in common. But the differences between them might reveal something about Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

"I think they're two very different types of charities," said Larry Noble, a lawyer at the Campaign Legal Center in Washington, D.C. "One of them is very professionally run and does a lot of work. The other seems to be more loosely run. And seems to be more focused on Donald Trump."

The Trump Foundation has engaged in documented, flagrant acts of violation. That's really different."

Pamela Mann, former head of the charities bureau in the New York attorney general's office

The most obvious difference between the two foundations is scale. The Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation, as it's formally known, is huge. It has hundreds of employees and a $90 million budget. The Donald J. Trump Foundation, by contrast, is fairly small. It has no full-time employees and a budget of about $600,000.

During the vice presidential debate earlier this month, Republican Mike Pence argued that the Clinton Foundation is basically a slush fund for its founders.

"Less than 10 cents on the dollar in the Clinton Foundation has gone to charitable causes," Pence charged.

But charities experts say that statement is misleading.

"It's based on a misunderstanding," Noble said, "either intentional or unintentional, of what kind of charitable foundation it is."

The Clinton Foundation and concerns of favors for big donors

The Clinton Foundation is what's called a public charity. That means it mostly raises money from other people and foundations (including, by the way, a gift of between $100,000 and $250,000 from the Trump Foundation in 2009). The Clinton Foundation spends that money on things like HIV and malaria prevention in Africa. It spends close to 90 cents of every dollar it gets on charitable causes, and earns top marks from watchdog groups.

 

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Former President Bill Clinton speaks at the annual gathering of the Clinton Global Initiative America, part of the Clinton Foundation, in Denver in 2015.

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But there's another criticism of the Clinton Foundation, one that Donald Trump himself has raised on the campaign trail.

"Her foundation took in large payments from major corporations and wealthy individuals, foreign and domestic, and all while she was secretary of state," Trump said at a rally in Akron, Ohio, in August, for example.

It's true that the Clinton Foundation accepts money from wealthy donors, both inside the U.S. and out. Emails between the staff at the Clinton Foundation and State Department show that some of those donors wanted access to Hillary Clinton, and that she did take meetings with some of them as secretary of state. But there's no evidence that big donors got any special favors from the State Department.

Still, Noble said, appearances matter, "because we're talking about government officials. And the concern is when they get a large contribution, it will influence the decision they make. Even if, as secretary of state, she did not concern herself at all with what big donors wanted, people will think that it did, in fact, influence her. And it undermines the credibility of decisions."