Fox news posts climate alert

[JimandChristy 1,689]

9 hours ago, IDWAF said:

So 5 in 5 years.  An average of one per year.  (Actually, less than that, since the first two were outside of the 5 year criteria, but I gave you credit for them anyway). Far from any sort of an “epidemic”.  

 

Las Vegas?  No.  Not an AR-15.  Can’t get into it with you on here, and it most likely won’t change your mind, but much of what you have read is not true.  This might help you if you listen withan open mind and do some searching on your own:

 

 

Five is five too many, were talking over a hundred people, look at the damage these types of guns does to somebody. They're lethal, they belong on a battlefield not on the streets.

 

They literally turn human organs and tissue into mincemeat.

Edited March 25, 2018 by JimandChristy

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

22 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Five is five too many, were talking over a hundred people, look at the damage these types of guns does to somebody. They're lethal, they belong on a battlefield not on the streets.

 

They literally turn human organs and tissue into mincemeat.

No, they do not.  Are they deadly?  Yes.  But in addition to reading what one doctor wrote, search for ballistic tests.  Look at .30 cal rifle vs .223 rifle ballistics.  As well as .40 cal pistol; try to find .40/.45 rifle ballistics if you can.  You'll see Whatcom mean.

 

The rifle bullets have higher velocity and therefore more impact energy because their barrels are longer.  Pistols, the opposite is true.  I'll try to look some up for you when I land, internet sucks now.

 

But remember... ALL bullets will harm or kill.  The trick is not pulling the trigger while pointing a gun at a human.  Or NOT pointing a gun at a human, ever.  Prevents all sorts of problems, not the least of which is tissue damage.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Ah. Finally caught up with the assault rifle debate. Filed under the Greenland is melting thread. Makes sense.

[Ban Hammer 13,407]

3 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

Five is five too many, were talking over a hundred people, look at the damage these types of guns does to somebody. They're lethal, they belong on a battlefield not on the streets.

 

They literally turn human organs and tissue into mincemeat.

 

hyperbole much?  that's pretty much standard for any high speed bullet.

 

the 5.56

3.56 g (55 gr) XM193 FMJBT	870 m/s (2,900 ft/s)	1,758 J (1,297 ft⋅lbf)
4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT	864 m/s (2,830 ft/s)	1,801 J (1,328 ft⋅lbf)
4 g (62 gr) M855A1 FMJBT	860 m/s (2,800 ft/s)	1,889 J (1,393 ft⋅lbf)
4.1 g (63 gr) DM11 FMJBT	856 m/s (2,810 ft/s)	1,796 J (1,325 ft⋅lbf)
4.1 g (63 gr) GP 90 FMJBT	850 m/s (2,800 ft/s)	1,679 J (1,238 ft⋅lbf)

 

 

30-06 bullet  (.30 caliber)

 

150 gr (10 g) Nosler Ballistic Tip	2,910 ft/s (890 m/s)	2,820 ft⋅lbf (3,820 J)
165 gr (11 g) BTSP	2,800 ft/s (850 m/s)	2,872 ft⋅lbf (3,894 J)
180 gr (12 g) Core-Lokt Soft Point	2,700 ft/s (820 m/s)	2,913 ft⋅lbf (3,949 J)
200 gr (13 g) Partition	2,569 ft/s (783 m/s)	2,932 ft⋅lbf (3,975 J)
220 gr (14 g) RN	2,500 ft/s (760 m/s)	2,981 ft⋅lbf (4,042 J)

 

 

(the above is from wikipedia)

 

the 30-06 runs about the same fps but has a heavier bullet.   the foot pounds is almost double in some loads for the 30-06.
learn about firearms!

[JimandChristy 1,689]

11 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

 

hyperbole much?  that's pretty much standard for any high speed bullet.

 

the 5.56

3.56 g (55 gr) XM193 FMJBT	870 m/s (2,900 ft/s)	1,758 J (1,297 ft⋅lbf)
4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT	864 m/s (2,830 ft/s)	1,801 J (1,328 ft⋅lbf)
4 g (62 gr) M855A1 FMJBT	860 m/s (2,800 ft/s)	1,889 J (1,393 ft⋅lbf)
4.1 g (63 gr) DM11 FMJBT	856 m/s (2,810 ft/s)	1,796 J (1,325 ft⋅lbf)
4.1 g (63 gr) GP 90 FMJBT	850 m/s (2,800 ft/s)	1,679 J (1,238 ft⋅lbf)

 

 

30-06 bullet  (.30 caliber)

 

150 gr (10 g) Nosler Ballistic Tip	2,910 ft/s (890 m/s)	2,820 ft⋅lbf (3,820 J)
165 gr (11 g) BTSP	2,800 ft/s (850 m/s)	2,872 ft⋅lbf (3,894 J)
180 gr (12 g) Core-Lokt Soft Point	2,700 ft/s (820 m/s)	2,913 ft⋅lbf (3,949 J)
200 gr (13 g) Partition	2,569 ft/s (783 m/s)	2,932 ft⋅lbf (3,975 J)
220 gr (14 g) RN	2,500 ft/s (760 m/s)	2,981 ft⋅lbf (4,042 J)

 

 

(the above is from wikipedia)

 

the 30-06 runs about the same fps but has a heavier bullet.   the foot pounds is almost double in some loads for the 30-06.
learn about firearms!

Compared to a handgun. Guns like the AR-15 should be for combat not home defense.

[Ban Hammer 13,407]

5 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Compared to a handgun. Guns like the AR-15 should be for combat not home defense.

ah so basically any rifle is what you want to ban, since the fps is pretty much the same between the 5.56 and the 30-06 (and the 30-06 hits a lot harder).

 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

7 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

ah so basically any rifle is what you want to ban, since the fps is pretty much the same between the 5.56 and the 30-06 (and the 30-06 hits a lot harder).

 

Well I'd say if you're not a hunter/soldier/farmer then why would anybody else need a rifle? A handgun(s) should suffice.

[Ban Hammer 13,407]

18 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Well I'd say if you're not a hunter/soldier/farmer then why would anybody else need a rifle? A handgun(s) should suffice.

i guess we can say goodbye to any gold medals in the olympics then.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

15 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

i guess we can say goodbye to any gold medals in the olympics then.

Nah I like the biathlon they don't shoot at human targets.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

Nah I like the biathlon they don't shoot at human targets.

But but but... some of those “athletes” use the scary black rifles too!

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

i guess we can say goodbye to any gold medals in the olympics then.

You can trade in Gold Medals and keep folks safe?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You can trade in Gold Medals and keep folks safe?

I can, as I am sure you can.  But can the people who have no moral code and don’t respect human life?

[Dashinka 24,601]

8 hours ago, IDWAF said:

I can, as I am sure you can.  But can the people who have no moral code and don’t respect human life?

Better edumacation will reduce those numbers.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

On 3/23/2018 at 12:39 PM, Boiler said:

That is of course your choice.

 

Actually Greenland was Green and then was hit with Global Cooling which wiped out the settlers, sometime in the 1300's I think.

 

Anyway back then of course they were not woke to the situation, should have been producing more CO2.

 

   Wow, fake news from the 1300's now. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Wow, fake news from the 1300's now. 

Post an article from back then disproving it, and we can talk.