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43 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Okay for the record the original name for the AK-47 was "Kalashnikov's Automatic Rifle"

 

So if Semi Automatic .30 Caliber weapon with the precision of a rifle is NOT an assault rifle, what is an example of what you call an assault rifle?

M240H, M60. (.30 cal)

 

M2 (.50 cal)

 

M16, M4 (3-round burst, but still qualifies), M249 (.22 cal)

 

Assault weapons are FAR from precise.  Their main purpose is to intimidate and get people to duck, not kill.

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48 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

...and gun fans wonder why they are not liked.

If it was not obvious, which I am sure it was to most, it was taking the 2nd Amendment and moving on to the 1st.

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46 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Okay for the record the original name for the AK-47 was "Kalashnikov's Automatic Rifle"

 

So if Semi Automatic .30 Caliber weapon with the precision of a rifle is NOT an assault rifle, what is an example of what you call an assault rifle?

Once Hitler saw the MP 44 being demonstrated, he was impressed and gave it the title Sturmgewehr. Seeing the possibility of a propaganda gain, the rifle was again renamed as the Sturmgewehr 44 (StG 44), to highlight the new class of weapon it represented. The designation translates to "Storm (Assault) rifle, model 1944", thereby introducing the term "assault rifle".

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46 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

I hate it when they're being facetious, they know exactly what we mean when we say ban or limit assault weapons. Its insulting and another big reason why they're not liked. 

You, who slings more insults on this board than any three people combined, are complaining about insults when you spout nonsense about guns?  

 

Grow a pair.  If you don’t like being corrected, speak/type/talk correctly.  The first one or two times, it’s ignorance, which is understandable and excusable.  After that, it becomes annoying and just... wrong.  More than two people on here have tried to help you better understand terminology and usage of certain weapons.  Your lack of desire to learn, or perhaps your stubborn desire to keep using wrong terms, will continue to get corrected.  You say you are a teacher, but good teachers should know when to teach, and when to learn.  

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5 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

M240H, M60. (.30 cal)

 

M2 (.50 cal)

 

M16, M4 (3-round burst, but still qualifies), M249 (.22 cal)

 

Assault weapons are FAR from precise.  Their main purpose is to intimidate and get people to duck, not kill.

so 500 rounds a minute is an assault rifle?  Ok. 

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4 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

so 500 rounds a minute is an assault rifle?  Ok. 

I did not say that.  There is no fire rate that is a standard.

 

as·sault ri·fle

noun

1. a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.

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23 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

You, who slings more insults on this board than any three people combined, are complaining about insults when you spout nonsense about guns?  

 

Grow a pair.  If you don’t like being corrected, speak/type/talk correctly.  The first one or two times, it’s ignorance, which is understandable and excusable.  After that, it becomes annoying and just... wrong.  More than two people on here have tried to help you better understand terminology and usage of certain weapons.  Your lack of desire to learn, or perhaps your stubborn desire to keep using wrong terms, will continue to get corrected.  You say you are a teacher, but good teachers should know when to teach, and when to learn.  

You know as well as I do an AR-15 that has been involved in numerous mass shootings over the past five years does not belong on the streets. It is a weapon that causes carnage, is unforgiving and its only use is to kill. This gun can cause far more damage to the human body in a fraction of a second than any handgun can. A civilian has no need for it. Oh and on a side note I very rarely sling insults to other people on here. My insults are usually reserved for a man who occupies the White House. The Stupid Fat Orange Nixon.

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2 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

You know as well as I do an AR-15 that has been involved in numerous mass shootings over the past five years does not belong on the streets. It is a weapon that causes carnage, is unforgiving and its only use is to kill. This gun can cause far more damage to the human body in a fraction of a second than any handgun can. A civilian has no need for it. Oh and on a side note I very rarely sling insults to other people on here. My insults are usually reserved for a man who occupies the White House. The Stupid Fat Orange Nixon.

Homework challenge:  List all of the shootings in the last 5 years in which at least 4 people were killed.  And total number of people killed.  With links.

All weapons cause damage.  They can kill, if that is the intent, or they can be used for fun, if that is the intent.  

 

“This gun can cause far more damage to the human body in a fraction of a second than any handgun can.”  Not sure what you mean by this exactly, but I could easily describe scenarios where it is true, and where it is false.  

 

It was designed for civilian use.  It isn’t something that is needed anymore than a car, it is something that is desired (by some).

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8 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Homework challenge:  List all of the shootings in the last 5 years in which at least 4 people were killed.  And total number of people killed.  With links.

All weapons cause damage.  They can kill, if that is the intent, or they can be used for fun, if that is the intent.  

 

“This gun can cause far more damage to the human body in a fraction of a second than any handgun can.”  Not sure what you mean by this exactly, but I could easily describe scenarios where it is true, and where it is false.  

 

It was designed for civilian use.  It isn’t something that is needed anymore than a car, it is something that is desired (by some).

AR-15 vs Handgun..

From a doctor treating victims of the high school shooting.

 

I was looking at a CT scan of one of the mass-shooting victims from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who had been brought to the trauma center during my call shift. The organ looked like an overripe melon smashed by a sledgehammer, and was bleeding extensively. How could a gunshot wound have caused this much damage?

The reaction in the emergency room was the same. One of the trauma surgeons opened a young victim in the operating room, and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit by a bullet from an AR-15, a semiautomatic rifle that delivers a devastatingly lethal, high-velocity bullet to the victim. Nothing was left to repair—and utterly, devastatingly, nothing could be done to fix the problem. The injury was fatal.

A year ago, when a gunman opened fire at the Fort Lauderdale airport with a 9 mm semiautomatic handgun, hitting 11 people in 90 seconds, I was also on call. It was not until I had diagnosed the third of the six victims who were transported to the trauma center that I realized something out of the ordinary must have happened. The gunshot wounds were the same low-velocity handgun injuries that I diagnose every day; only their rapid succession set them apart. And all six of the victims who arrived at the hospital that day survived.

 

So tell me why does any civilian need an AR-15?

 

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5 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

 

So tell me why does any civilian need an AR-15?

 

Why does any human need any sort of a gun?

 

Tell you what, I will shoot you once with a pistol, and once with a 5.56 round, and then you can tell me first hand which is worse, ok?

 

Now... how many mass murders were committed in the past 5 years with an AR-15? (Links required)

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5 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Why does any human need any sort of a gun?

 

Tell you what, I will shoot you once with a pistol, and once with a 5.56 round, and then you can tell me first hand which is worse, ok?

 

Now... how many mass murders were committed in the past 5 years with an AR-15? (Links required)

 

AR-15 variants have been used in mass shootings in the United States including the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, 2012 Aurora shooting, 2015 San Bernardino attack,^[4] the 2017 Sutherland Springs church shooting,^[64]the 2017 Las Vegas shooting,^[64] and the 2018 Stoneman Douglas High School shooting.^[65]

 

Following the use of a Colt AR-15 rifle in the Port Arthur massacre, the worst single-person shooting incident in Australian history, the country enacted the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act 1996, restricting the private ownership of semi-automatic rifles with a capacity of more than 5 rounds.

 

If the Aussies, Brits and the rest of the first world saw common sense on this matter, maybe America will finally enter the 21st century. 

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7 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

 

AR-15 variants have been used in mass shootings in the United States including the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, 2012 Aurora shooting, 2015 San Bernardino attack,^[4] the 2017 Sutherland Springs church shooting,^[64]the 2017 Las Vegas shooting,^[64] and the 2018 Stoneman Douglas High School shooting.^[65]

 

Following the use of a Colt AR-15 rifle in the Port Arthur massacre, the worst single-person shooting incident in Australian history, the country enacted the National Firearms Programme Implementation Act 1996, restricting the private ownership of semi-automatic rifles with a capacity of more than 5 rounds.

 

If the Aussies, Brits and the rest of the first world saw common sense on this matter, maybe America will finally enter the 21st century. 

So 5 in 5 years.  An average of one per year.  (Actually, less than that, since the first two were outside of the 5 year criteria, but I gave you credit for them anyway). Far from any sort of an “epidemic”.  

 

Las Vegas?  No.  Not an AR-15.  Can’t get into it with you on here, and it most likely won’t change your mind, but much of what you have read is not true.  This might help you if you listen withan open mind and do some searching on your own:

 

 

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32 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So 5 in 5 years.  An average of one per year.  (Actually, less than that, since the first two were outside of the 5 year criteria, but I gave you credit for them anyway). Far from any sort of an “epidemic”.  

 

Las Vegas?  No.  Not an AR-15.  Can’t get into it with you on here, and it most likely won’t change your mind, but much of what you have read is not true.  This might help you if you listen withan open mind and do some searching on your own:

 

 

 

I don't think anyone disputes that fully automatic weapons don't belong on the street. 

 

Would it be hard to compromise with a bump stock ban which effectively creates > 300 rounds per minute capacity and modernization of the background system that is quite frankly outdated and riddled with defects? 

 

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3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

 

I don't think anyone disputes that fully automatic weapons don't belong on the street. 

 

Would it be hard to compromise with a bump stock ban which effectively creates > 300 rounds per minute capacity and modernization of the background system that is quite frankly outdated and riddled with defects? 

 

I don't have any problem with "banning" bump stocks.  They're useless for just about anything but wasting ammo.  Anyone who knows how they work (i.e.. anyone who knows how to use google) can do the same thing with a beltloop or piece of string.  I'd never own one, personally.   And would certainly never try to kill anything using one.  Could do just about as good with a push mower.