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Because the conversation usually goes like this:

You: We don’t want to ban all guns, we just want to ban assault weapons.

Me: What do you mean by “assault weapons?” There is no standard definition of “assault guns / assault weapons.”

You: You know, military grade weapons—no one needs those.

Me: “Military grade” weapons have a selector for fully automatic fire. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal since 1934. Civilians can’t purchase “military grade” weapons.

You: Well, you know, we should ban guns like AR-15s then.

Me: You want to ban just AR-15s or all guns like AR-15s?

You: All guns like AR-15s.

Me: An AR-15 is pretty representative of guns like it, so let’s look specifically at it. An AR-15 is a semi-automatic modern sporting rifle that can chamber .22, .223 (5.56 x 45mm), 6.8 SPC, .308, .450 Bushmaster and about a dozen others. Upper receivers for pistol calibers such as 9 mm, .40, and .45 are available. There are even .410 shotgun versions. So how would you write a “ban on guns like AR-15s” into law?

You: Um, let’s just ban all semi-automatic weapons.

Me: So you want to ban semi-automatic rifles or semi-automatic weapons?

You: All semi-automatic weapons

Me: So that would leave only bolt-action rifles and revolvers as legal guns?

You: Yeah! That’s it!

Me: That would ban about 80% of the guns currently in the US. I thought you said you didn’t want to ban all guns?

You: But the children!

Me: You’re a moron.

You: That’s mean and hateful! You can’t say that!

Me: Yes, it’s mean, but it’s protected under free speech.

You: We need to ban hate speech!

Me: You want to start placing restrictions on free speech now?

You: Not all speech, just hate speech.

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2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Are AR-15s  assault rifles?

No

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9 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Because the conversation usually goes like this:

You: We don’t want to ban all guns, we just want to ban assault weapons.

Me: What do you mean by “assault weapons?” There is no standard definition of “assault guns / assault weapons.”

You: You know, military grade weapons—no one needs those.

Me: “Military grade” weapons have a selector for fully automatic fire. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal since 1934. Civilians can’t purchase “military grade” weapons.

You: Well, you know, we should ban guns like AR-15s then.

Me: You want to ban just AR-15s or all guns like AR-15s?

You: All guns like AR-15s.

Me: An AR-15 is pretty representative of guns like it, so let’s look specifically at it. An AR-15 is a semi-automatic modern sporting rifle that can chamber .22, .223 (5.56 x 45mm), 6.8 SPC, .308, .450 Bushmaster and about a dozen others. Upper receivers for pistol calibers such as 9 mm, .40, and .45 are available. There are even .410 shotgun versions. So how would you write a “ban on guns like AR-15s” into law?

You: Um, let’s just ban all semi-automatic weapons.

Me: So you want to ban semi-automatic rifles or semi-automatic weapons?

You: All semi-automatic weapons

Me: So that would leave only bolt-action rifles and revolvers as legal guns?

You: Yeah! That’s it!

Me: That would ban about 80% of the guns currently in the US. I thought you said you didn’t want to ban all guns?

You: But the children!

Me: You’re a moron.

You: That’s mean and hateful! You can’t say that!

Me: Yes, it’s mean, but it’s protected under free speech.

You: We need to ban hate speech!

Me: You want to start placing restrictions on free speech now?

You: Not all speech, just hate speech.

...and gun fans wonder why they are not liked.

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Just now, Il Mango Dulce said:

...and gun fans wonder why they are not liked.

I hate it when they're being facetious, they know exactly what we mean when we say ban or limit assault weapons. Its insulting and another big reason why they're not liked. 

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7 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Some are.  Most are not (in the US).

Okay for the record the original name for the AK-47 was "Kalashnikov's Automatic Rifle"

 

So if Semi Automatic .30 Caliber weapon with the precision of a rifle is NOT an assault rifle, what is an example of what you call an assault rifle?

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2 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

I hate it when they're being facetious, they know exactly what we mean when we say ban or limit assault weapons. Its insulting and another big reason why they're not liked. 

This is why they have the NRA and gun clubs.  It provides them with socialization which is always better than accumulating rounds and stewing at home alone.

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49 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Is a  Кала́шникова an assault rifle?

The AK-47 was designed to be a simple, reliable fully automatic rifle that could be manufactured quickly and cheaply, using mass production methods that were state of the art in the Soviet Union during the late 1940s.[

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