Chevron’s lawyer, speaking for major oil companies, says climate change is real and it’s your fault

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

21 hours ago, IDWAF said:

Have you stopped driving your car?  Heating your house?  Tell us what YOU have done to eliminate carbon build up.

 

On 3/23/2018 at 8:46 AM, Il Mango Dulce said:

I have been right here trying to persuade folks that action on eliminating carbon is necessary. 

Not sure if you just missed my question, or were too embarrassed to answer it.  Re-posting in case it’s the former.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

 

Not sure if you just missed my question, or were too embarrassed to answer it.  Re-posting in case it’s the former.

I estimate I have cut my carbon footprint by 30%. Not perfect but progress.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

11 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

I estimate I have cut my carbon footprint by 30%. Not perfect but progress.

I’d be interested in hearing how.  PM if you don’t want to share publicly.  I cannot give up my vehicles at this point in my life, but if there are other ways I could make a change, I would be interested in knowing what is effective.  

 

Oh, and congrats on 30%.  I think that is a lot more than many are doing.  Self included. (Though I tend to drive less than 8K per year, which I think is pretty low).

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

11 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I’d be interested in hearing how.  PM if you don’t want to share publicly.  I cannot give up my vehicles at this point in my life, but if there are other ways I could make a change, I would be interested in knowing what is effective.  

 

Oh, and congrats on 30%.  I think that is a lot more than many are doing.  Self included. (Though I tend to drive less than 8K per year, which I think is pretty low).

Truthfully, I cut back on air travel and bought a heat pump. My job is 12 miles instead of 25 away so that helps as well. With LED lights there is more savings that you might think at first blush.  My TV and REfer though use more power than the ones they replaced oddly enough. Love my OLED LG.

 

We are considering a Tesla 3 when our number comes up, as Bill points out ad naseum the energy to make new is not nothing with 1/2 the carbon footprint of a car being mfg.  It makes me think driving something into the ground might be a net good thing.

 

If I had a solar roof that would be sweet.  I look forward to having the economy of scale kick inn for Solar and Smart Grid.  Germany has had this for years.  Those solar panels are paid for years ago and still kicking out juice to sell back to the grid.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

40 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Truthfully, I cut back on air travel and bought a heat pump. My job is 12 miles instead of 25 away so that helps as well. With LED lights there is more savings that you might think at first blush.  My TV and REfer though use more power than the ones they replaced oddly enough. Love my OLED LG.

 

We are considering a Tesla 3 when our number comes up, as Bill points out ad naseum the energy to make new is not nothing with 1/2 the carbon footprint of a car being mfg.  It makes me think driving something into the ground might be a net good thing.

 

If I had a solar roof that would be sweet.  I look forward to having the economy of scale kick inn for Solar and Smart Grid.  Germany has had this for years.  Those solar panels are paid for years ago and still kicking out juice to sell back to the grid.

Thanks for all of that.  Maybe I am not doing too poorly after all.  All my lights in the house are LED. Expensive to replace, but cheap to run.  14 miles one way to work, but I only go to work once every 4-5 days.  TVs are old, LCD I think, but not sure.  Solar panel on the roof, but don’t think it is working properly, need to look into that.  I have a friend who is making about $1500 a year or so with his panels, selling electricity back.  Good investment.

 

Not sure I would buy a Tesla for many years; too expensive yet.  Maybe one day...

[TBoneTX 46,060]

I still wonder whether it's environmentally worse to fart outdoors than to do so indoors.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

44 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

I still wonder whether it's environmentally worse to fart outdoors than to do so indoors.

What does Mrs. TB say?

 

Personally, I find Dutch ovens the safest of all.

Edited March 25, 2018 by IDWAF

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

I still wonder whether it's environmentally worse to fart outdoors than to do so indoors.

 

  Doesn't matter. Methane has to go somewhere. From inside your house, it will make it's way outside. Even if you hold that fart in, methane is reabsorbed into your blood stream and released via the lungs, sometimes noticed as a cause of bad breath. Your contribution to global warming is determined by what you put in your mouth to eat, not by what eventually comes out. Sorry to be a downer

 

  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

16 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Doesn't matter. Methane has to go somewhere. From inside your house, it will make it's way outside. Even if you hold that fart in, methane is reabsorbed into your blood stream and released via the lungs, sometimes noticed as a cause of bad breath. Your contribution to global warming is determined by what you put in your mouth to eat, not by what eventually comes out. Sorry to be a downer

 

  

So if we stop eating, we are reducing our carbon footprint?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

29 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So if we stop eating, we are reducing our carbon footprint?

 

   Many better ways to do that. As a nation we do probably should eat less on average though.

 

   Overall, eating is not a big contributor to global warming. Our food industry is a big contributor though. Mono crops, massive amounts of fertilizer and insecticide, factory meat farms, deforestation.  As we make better and easier ways to support the billions of people on the earth, we should probably recognize that the solution is in many ways part of the problem

 

   

 

   

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

5 hours ago, IDWAF said:

So if we stop eating, we are reducing our carbon footprint?

Definitely if you stop eating and drinking altogether.

[Dashinka 24,767]

28 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Definitely if you stop eating and drinking altogether.

We will let the devout show us the way.

[TBoneTX 46,060]

20 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

Methane

If I fart, it's methane; if you fart, it's youthane.

A lot of stuff is made out of poly-youthane.

Accordingly, second-person farting seems to be good for the economy.

[Dashinka 24,767]

3 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

If I fart, it's methane; if you fart, it's youthane.

A lot of stuff is made out of poly-youthane.

Accordingly, second-person farting seems to be good for the economy.

Where is the "thumbs down" button?

 

[TBoneTX 46,060]

Conspicuously absent is any attempt to refute said impeccable logic...