A Billionaire and a Nurse Shouldn't Pay the Same Fine for Speeding...

[spookyturtle 9,466]

2 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Don’t speed. No fine.

That was my first post in the thread.  No one is being forced to speed. It is a universal fine, black, white, male, female, any religion, ethnicity, etc pays the same. That’s fair and non discriminatory. 

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1 minute ago, Póg mo said:

All being equal, sure. The world sure ain't equal though  Some people are wealthy because they had wealthy parents. Why punish the poor, for being poor? Isn't the law supposed to be applied equally, so why are the rich being given a free pass to do what they want?

They aren’t. They can afford the consequences. Not a free pass at all. 

[Jacque67 7,328]

9 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

I’m all about personal responsibility. I don’t blame anyone else for my problems, financial or otherwise. 

Where's the blame? If you can afford to pay more for your crime, you should. 

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5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

so because courts are overburdened we can't improve? poor people go to prison for inability to pay in some areas, is this not burdensome the court system? obviously tax payers pay more money to jail someone than the actual fine..

 

I’m willing to bet the jails aren’t full of people who didn’t pay a traffic violation. The usual consequence is losing ones license and not being able to register a vehicle.

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1 minute ago, spookyturtle said:

They aren’t. They can afford the consequences. Not a free pass at all. 

sounds like a free pass to me.

Just now, spookyturtle said:

I’m willing to bet the jails aren’t full of people who didn’t pay a traffic violation. The usual consequence is losing ones license and not being able to register a vehicle.

or being able to drive to work.

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1 minute ago, Jacque67 said:

Where's the blame? If you can afford to pay more for your crime, you should. 

You should pay more for gas if you can afford it. And electricity. And everything else you buy. Fair is fair.

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

sounds like a free pass to me.

or being able to drive to work.

Don’t commmit violations and you won’t lose your license. Personal responsibility. 

[Póg mo 1,749]

1 minute ago, spookyturtle said:

That was my first post in the thread.  No one is being forced to speed. It is a universal fine, black, white, male, female, any religion, ethnicity, etc pays the same. That’s fair and non discriminatory. 

Nobody sure, but I don't quite understand why you have a such a black and white view of the world? Take people with ADHD, who are much more likely to speed, according to statistics, so why, given a natural tendency to speed, would a rich person with ADHD potentially receive a much smaller fine, in purportion their income, than someone with a lot less wealth, but equally or more prone to speeding?  

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Don’t commmit violations and you won’t lose your license. Personal responsibility. 

poor people have to have personal responsibility, rich people can afford not to. entitlement 101.

[Jacque67 7,328]

3 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

You should pay more for gas if you can afford it. And electricity. And everything else you buy. Fair is fair.

Last I heard buying Gas isn't a crime. Visit Knightsbridge, London in summer.

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5 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Nobody sure, but I don't quite understand why you have a such a black and white view of the world? Take people with ADHD, who are much more likely to speed, according to statistics, so why, given a natural tendency to speed, would a rich person with ADHD potentially receive a much smaller fine, in purportion their income, than someone with a lot less wealth, but equally or more prone to speeding?  

Then they shouldn’t be driving if they aren’t capable of doing it safely and according to the law. Just like guns.

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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

poor people have to have personal responsibility, rich people can afford not to. entitlement 101.

The rich have personal responsibility too. No one ever said the behavior showed good character. 

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Just now, spookyturtle said:

The rich have personal responsibility too. No one ever said the behavior showed good character. 

good character has nothing to do with fined amounts for speeding.

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6 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Last I heard buying Gas isn't a crime. Visit Knightsbridge, London in summer.

So speeding is a crime that some voluntarily commit and suffer the consequences thereof. 

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

good character has nothing to do with fined amounts for speeding.

Do you think a rich person should pay a bigger fine for having an unlicensed dog?

Edited March 19, 2018 by spookyturtle