Getting Sued using I864 part 2

[Unidentified 2,930]

4 minutes ago, Roel said:

They really cannot if their goal is to be with their US citizen loved one. 

OP doesn't understand that no one is ever forced to sign that document. I've tried.

 

Mods please close this thread. At this point OP is just trolling. 

I know. But I can't help replying...

 

I don't think the mods are awake. I have reported him for circumventing language filter and spamming and nothing has happened. He also revived an old thread from like 2011-2012. 

[Muffinji 43]

5 minutes ago, seantruce said:

We should get rid of the i864 requirement.

 

In the meantime we should take away status for immigrants that sue based on the i864

 

Stop the i864!

I think before you talk about stopping the i864 because it’s causing you issues due to your personal mistake,

note that the main objective of the form I believe was to prove that the beneficiary would not be a public charge. 

 

I think it does not only apply to spouses. It also applies to other family members. 

Before you want to campaign for removing the form, I think you should understand the main objective of the form and if your new suggestion does not achieve the objective of the form but is just for your own cause, ....

 

 

[seantruce 5]

7 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

No sweetheart. No one held a gun to your head and made you sign it. You choose to not read up on what kind of contract you were signing. This is all you. This is not a human rights thing. It's a human error thing. 

Since we have this policy where anyone in the world who can con an American into signing this form will get potentially a million dollars, it will attract bad people to immigrate here.

 

I can't understand why a good hard working person would support this policy unless they think they are entitled to something for nothing.

 

The error was also put in place by politicians. I say work or lose status. Are you afraid of work?

 

Americans, do not sign the i864, it is like putting a gun to your head!

[Unidentified 2,930]

Just now, seantruce said:

Since we have this policy where anyone in the world who can con an American into signing this form will get potentially a million dollars, it will attract bad people to immigrate here.

 

I can't understand why a good hard working person would support this policy unless they think they are entitled to something for nothing.

 

The error was also put in place by politicians. I say work or lose status. Are you afraid of work?

 

Americans, do not sign the i864, it is like putting a gun to your head!

No. The form is a requirement from USCIS, it's not a tool to con people. Please read up on what the form is about or stop trolling this forum. 

[seantruce 5]

8 minutes ago, Roel said:

They really cannot if their goal is to be with their US citizen loved one. 

OP doesn't understand that no one is ever forced to sign that document. I've tried.

 

Mods please close this thread. At this point OP is just trolling. 

I am not trolling. I am real and this problem is real. I am sure there are instances where people do not get married because of this i864 document. They should get rid of this document so that there is no question about why people are getting married.

[seantruce 5]

10 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

a prenuptial agreement would not have gotten you out of your responsibilities as the sponsor. 

It could not have hurt. I have heard in some cases it did help. Where they write the prenup like another contract where it says that the sponsor will get reimbursed by the immigrant.

 

It just is not fair that someone making $30k per year will have to give all their future earnings and have zero money for signing this contract.

[Muffinji 43]

1 minute ago, seantruce said:

I am not trolling. I am real and this problem is real. I am sure there are instances where people do not get married because of this i864 document. They should get rid of this document so that there is no question about why people are getting married.

Uhm. You do realize that... a lot of us here got married before we knew anything about that form? It don’t have anything to do with getting married. 

 

[seantruce 5]

6 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

I know. But I can't help replying...

 

I don't think the mods are awake. I have reported him for circumventing language filter and spamming and nothing has happened. He also revived an old thread from like 2011-2012. 

Are you against me expressing my opinion? This is a real issue that needs to be addressed. If you do not like it, you do not have to be here.

[Crazy Cat 41,865]

5 minutes ago, seantruce said:

Since we have this policy where anyone in the world who can con an American into signing this form will get potentially a million dollars, it will attract bad people to immigrate here.

Not every American is easily conned.

[seantruce 5]

12 minutes ago, missileman said:

Agree

Freedom of speech please.

[Crazy Cat 41,865]

Just now, seantruce said:

Are you against me expressing my opinion? This is a real issue that needs to be addressed. If you do not like it, you do not have to be here.

It is violation of the Terms of Service of Visa Journey to tell others to stop posting.

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, seantruce said:

Are you against me expressing my opinion? This is a real issue that needs to be addressed. If you do not like it, you do not have to be here.

Expressing an opinion and breaking the Terms of Conditions of this website are two very different things. Telling someone they can't post is also a violation to the TOS.

Edited March 25, 2018 by Unidentified

[Lemonslice 4,841]

6 minutes ago, seantruce said:

Since we have this policy where anyone in the world who can con an American into signing this form will get potentially a million dollars, it will attract bad people to immigrate here.

 

I can't understand why a good hard working person would support this policy unless they think they are entitled to something for nothing.

 

The error was also put in place by politicians. I say work or lose status. Are you afraid of work?

 

Americans, do not sign the i864, it is like putting a gun to your head!

If your spouse is unable to support herself, because of illness or disability, your suggestion would be?  

[seantruce 5]

13 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

The reason why you are in this predicament is because you didn't go through the process together with your spouse, you let her handle it. The rest of us had both partners involved and we talked through the whole process and money were discussed and in my case I informed my USC spouse what the affidavit would mean if, by some weird reason, we were going to get divorced. You guys didn't talk, you had no idea what was going on and here we are. 

Yes! Let's let everyone come here and be public charge! Sweet!

I do not want a public charge, I just want people to support themselves if they want to be here.

 

You can see here on VJ that there are many conflicting opinions about what this document means:

 

I was believing what I read at first and that is what my ex told me.

 

I was tricked.

 

[seantruce 5]

8 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

No. The form is a requirement from USCIS, it's not a tool to con people. Please read up on what the form is about or stop trolling this forum. 

I don't understand why I am accused of being a troll here. I have a genuine issue. It is used as a tool to con people, like me.