Getting Sued using I864 part 2

[arken 4,197]

Just now, seantruce said:

I wish I did.

 

Do you think it is fair that someone can marry an American for a short time and then get $30k per year for not working potentially for life?

 

I recommend that nobody ever sign the Affidavit of Support or at least get a prenuptial agreement that requires reimbursement for this money.

Once again you are wrong. Someone is getting 30k per year not because of just marrying an American citizen but because that American signed a contract saying he would pay. One person can sign that i864 for somebody’s wife or other relatives and could end up paying the same way. 

 

Anyway, good luck for your policy change idea. You talked about the President earlier, yeah, may be he’ll help you, after all he also signed the omnibus bill without reading it.

[Crazy Cat 41,865]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

So how are couples who want to live together in the US supposed to do that without signing a required document?

Have some other US citizen sponsor your spouse???

[seantruce 5]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

So how are couples who want to live together in the US supposed to do that without signing a required document?

They can move to the other persons country like someone here just pointed out.

 

They can come here on another type of visa.

 

i864 is against human rights in my opinion. If someone makes $30k per year and then the immigrant can take it all from that person for life, that is very wrong. I see that most people here on this discussion think that it is ok to have this policy. 

 

Stop the i864!

[Unidentified 2,930]

4 minutes ago, missileman said:

Have some other US citizen sponsor your spouse???

Well he said "nobody" so then another USC wouldn't work either?  

[Lemonslice 4,841]

2 minutes ago, seantruce said:

They can move to the other persons country like someone here just pointed out.

 

They can come here on another type of visa.

 

i864 is against human rights in my opinion. If someone makes $30k per year and then the immigrant can take it all from that person for life, that is very wrong. I see that most people here on this discussion think that it is ok to have this policy. 

 

Stop the i864!

Your spouse, your responsibility. Or are you suggesting I pay for her?

[seantruce 5]

3 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Then no one will be able to bring their spouse... Lol

 

Seriously, scammers are going to scam, some Americans scam, some immigrant's do. Most don't.  Before advising anyone to get a prenuptial agreement, I suggest you do some more reading.

My opinion is that if people were getting married for love, then a prenuptial agreement would help prove the love. To often people marry for money.

 

Yes there are many Americans that are scammers. I think the i864 policy for short term marriages is a scam waiting to happen. We should get rid of this document. It would reduce the amount of marriages, because the scammers would be less likely to get married without knowing they could be rich for suckering someone into signing it.

 

i864 scammers are just looking for this opportunity.

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, seantruce said:

They can move to the other persons country like someone here just pointed out.

 

They can come here on another type of visa.

 

i864 is against human rights in my opinion. If someone makes $30k per year and then the immigrant can take it all from that person for life, that is very wrong. I see that most people here on this discussion think that it is ok to have this policy. 

 

Stop the i864!

No sweetheart. No one held a gun to your head and made you sign it. You choose to not read up on what kind of contract you were signing. This is all you. This is not a human rights thing. It's a human error thing. 

[seantruce 5]

6 minutes ago, arken said:

Once again you are wrong. Someone is getting 30k per year not because of just marrying an American citizen but because that American signed a contract saying he would pay. One person can sign that i864 for somebody’s wife or other relatives and could end up paying the same way. 

 

Anyway, good luck for your policy change idea. You talked about the President earlier, yeah, may be he’ll help you, after all he also signed the omnibus bill without reading it.

I guess you think that if an immigrant can get someone to sign an i864, then they should not have to work for the rest of their lives. Is that true?

 

end the i864 requirement!

[Roel 7,192]

4 minutes ago, seantruce said:

They can move to the other persons country like someone here just pointed out.

 

They can come here on another type of visa.

They really cannot if their goal is to be with their US citizen loved one. 

Just now, Unidentified said:

No sweetheart. No one held a gun to your head and made you sign it. You choose to not read up on what kind of contract you were signing. This is all you. This is not a human rights thing. It's a human error thing. 

OP doesn't understand that no one is ever forced to sign that document. I've tried.

 

4 minutes ago, seantruce said:

 

i864 is against human rights in my opinion. 

Mods please close this thread. At this point OP is just trolling. 

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, seantruce said:

My opinion is that if people were getting married for love, then a prenuptial agreement would help prove the love. To often people marry for money.

 

Yes there are many Americans that are scammers. I think the i864 policy for short term marriages is a scam waiting to happen. We should get rid of this document. It would reduce the amount of marriages, because the scammers would be less likely to get married without knowing they could be rich for suckering someone into signing it.

 

i864 scammers are just looking for this opportunity.

a prenuptial agreement would not have gotten you out of your responsibilities as the sponsor. 

[seantruce 5]

8 minutes ago, missileman said:

Have some other US citizen sponsor your spouse???

We should get rid of the i864 requirement.

 

In the meantime we should take away status for immigrants that sue based on the i864

 

Stop the i864!

[Crazy Cat 41,865]

1 minute ago, Roel said:

Mods please close this thread. At this point OP is just trolling. 

Agree

[Unidentified 2,930]

1 minute ago, seantruce said:

I guess you think that if an immigrant can get someone to sign an i864, then they should not have to work for the rest of their lives. Is that true?

 

end the i864 requirement!

The reason why you are in this predicament is because you didn't go through the process together with your spouse, you let her handle it. The rest of us had both partners involved and we talked through the whole process and money were discussed and in my case I informed my USC spouse what the affidavit would mean if, by some weird reason, we were going to get divorced. You guys didn't talk, you had no idea what was going on and here we are. 

Just now, seantruce said:

We should get rid of the i864 requirement.

 

In the meantime we should take away status for immigrants that sue based on the i864

 

Stop the i864!

Yes! Let's let everyone come here and be public charge! Sweet!

[seantruce 5]

5 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Well he said "nobody" so then another USC wouldn't work either?  

It is amazing how many people think that immigrants should get supported for life for a short term marriage.

 

stop the i864!

[seantruce 5]

6 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Your spouse, your responsibility. Or are you suggesting I pay for her?

Not at all. I am suggesting that she support herself in order to keep her status.