Getting Sued using I864 part 2

[arken 4,197]

54 minutes ago, seantruce said:

Did you read the Microsoft document or the apple document or the Samsung document or did you scroll through it? You are not helping things here. Once I got hurt and someone just tells me watch out next time. That is not very compassionate.

You signed a contract in i864 form that says you are liable for any public benefits your beneficiary would claim from the government. Now you are blaming the government!!!!! You signed for it so you are responsible for it.

If you think you got hurt it’s all on you not the government.

 

[seantruce 5]

13 minutes ago, arken said:

You signed a contract in i864 form that says you are liable for any public benefits your beneficiary would claim from the government. Now you are blaming the government!!!!! You signed for it so you are responsible for it.

If you think you got hurt it’s all on you not the government.

 

You have no compassion.

[seantruce 5]

Just now, seantruce said:

You have no compassion.

And our system is ripe for users taking advantage of compassionate people like me.

[Roel 7,192]

3 hours ago, seantruce said:

And our system is ripe for users taking advantage of compassionate people like me.

Then next time don't sign something if you're not able to face the consequences of it.

 

This has nothing to do with compassion or your emotions. 

So stop complaining, geez. It's like someone crying that he signed the money loan and didn't realize he will eventually have to pay it back. 

[Unidentified 2,930]

9 hours ago, seantruce said:

Did you read the Microsoft document or the apple document or the Samsung document or did you scroll through it? You are not helping things here. Once I got hurt and someone just tells me watch out next time. That is not very compassionate.

I am sorry but you sound very immature if you think you can compare the user agreement of Microsoft with something as important as sponsoring someone's Green Card. How old are you? You have to be 18 to sign it but I doubt you're much older than that. It is time to grow up and deal with the consequences of your behavior. 

 

Stop blaming the government, you brought this on yourself. The government is protecting our society from people coming in and becoming an economic burden on society, that's why they have sponsors sign an affidavit of support so the sponsor have to deal with everything and not the US tax payers. 

 

If you're looking for compassion your in the wrong place. You're on an immigration forum where the majority of us realized it was super important to do our own research before we signed anything as with anything in life. You don't want to not read about loans etc when buying a car or a house etc. 

[arken 4,197]

9 hours ago, seantruce said:

You have no compassion.

That’s because you weren’t looking for it. You came here and started venting you anger and the blame on the government and treated yourself like a pure crystal as if you have no role in your current mess. You talked about changing the laws just because you made a mistake of signing a thing without reading and bringing someone into the US as a resident. Take the responsibility first and then talk about compassion. 

[seantruce 5]

2 hours ago, Unidentified said:

I am sorry but you sound very immature if you think you can compare the user agreement of Microsoft with something as important as sponsoring someone's Green Card. How old are you? You have to be 18 to sign it but I doubt you're much older than that. It is time to grow up and deal with the consequences of your behavior. 

 

Stop blaming the government, you brought this on yourself. The government is protecting our society from people coming in and becoming an economic burden on society, that's why they have sponsors sign an affidavit of support so the sponsor have to deal with everything and not the US tax payers. 

 

If you're looking for compassion your in the wrong place. You're on an immigration forum where the majority of us realized it was super important to do our own research before we signed anything as with anything in life. You don't want to not read about loans etc when buying a car or a house etc. 

Hey "unidentified". You know that is very common to marry for a greencard and that marriages that have a green card involved usually end in divorce. In my case my immigrant wife fakes who she is. Pretends she has same interests. Then she get to America, demands money, go to the bars, sleeps around and then blames me for something I didn't do. I know that there are also immigrants that are sincere, but half the time, Americans are being used. That is what happened to me. If you are taking the side of the person faking their personality to get a green card, then we know the motive here. Especially since you are an anonymous poster. I am all for sincere immigrants, but we need to get rid of the loophole that gives people a greencard and potentially lifetime support for a short marriage.

 

Here is her rulebook:

 

Marry American

Get to America

Get divorced

Don't get a job

Get supported for life

 

Is there something I am missing here?

 

I think after the get divorced, there should be another path.

[Unidentified 2,930]

2 minutes ago, seantruce said:

Hey "unidentified". You know that is very common to marry for a greencard and that marriages that have a green card involved usually end in divorce. In my case my immigrant wife fakes who she is. Pretends she has same interests. Then she get to America, demands money, go to the bars, sleeps around and then blames me for something I didn't do. I know that there are also immigrants that are sincere, but half the time, Americans are being used. That is what happened to me. If you are taking the side of the person faking their personality to get a green card, then we know the motive here. Especially since you are an anonymous poster. I am all for sincere immigrants, but we need to get rid of the loophole that gives people a greencard and potentially lifetime support for a short marriage.

 

Here is her rulebook:

 

Marry American

Get to America

Get divorced

Don't get a job

Get supported for life

 

Is there something I am missing here?

 

I think after the get divorced, there should be another path.

I am not taking sides. I am making you realize it is not the governments fault your marriage fell apart and you didn't read the document you signed where you promised your wife wouldn't be a public charge.  When you went through this whole process you sent in evidence to USCIS proving that your relationship was legit (not for a green card). How long did you know her before you married her? 

[seantruce 5]

6 hours ago, Roel said:

Then next time don't sign something if you're not able to face the consequences of it.

 

This has nothing to do with compassion or your emotions. 

So stop complaining, geez. It's like someone crying that he signed the money loan and didn't realize he will eventually have to pay it back. 

The wording in the document is confusing, especially when you come to this website and see all of the people explaining how it is unenforceable and never enforced. It is also impossible to marry someone without this contract. I want to find people here to get together and lobby the government against this policy. We should not give status to people using the system in the way that my ex is using the system. This document just encourages marriage fraud.

[seantruce 5]

1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

I am not taking sides. I am making you realize it is not the governments fault your marriage fell apart and you didn't read the document you signed where you promised your wife wouldn't be a public charge.  When you went through this whole process you sent in evidence to USCIS proving that your relationship was legit (not for a green card). How long did you know her before you married her? 

I knew her for 6 months living in another country. I can look back on this and see that I should have never married her, but I cannot. If I was unscrupulous, I am sure I could find someone who I was not interested in, pretend I was in love, marry them and steal all of their money. It would also be legal to do that, but immoral. We should not give green cards to people that have short marriages.

[Unidentified 2,930]

3 minutes ago, seantruce said:

The wording in the document is confusing, especially when you come to this website and see all of the people explaining how it is unenforceable and never enforced. It is also impossible to marry someone without this contract. I want to find people here to get together and lobby the government against this policy. We should not give status to people using the system in the way that my ex is using the system. This document just encourages marriage fraud.

What part is confusing?

"How Long Does My Obligation as a Sponsor Continue?

Your obligation to support the immigrants you are sponsoring in this Affidavit of Support will continue until the sponsored immigrant becomes a U.S. citizen, or can be credited with 40 qualifying quarters of work in the United States. Although 40 qualifying quarters of work (credits) generally equates to 10 years of work, in certain cases the work of a spouse or parent adds qualifying quarters. The Social Security Administration can provide information on how to count qualifying quarters (credits) of work. The obligation also ends if you or the sponsored immigrant dies or if the sponsored immigrant ceases to be a lawful permanent resident. Divorce does not end the sponsorship obligation."

Quote is directly from the instruction pdf file for the affidavit of support form found on USCIS.gov

[Unidentified 2,930]

2 minutes ago, seantruce said:

I knew her for 6 months living in another country. I can look back on this and see that I should have never married her, but I cannot. If I was unscrupulous, I am sure I could find someone who I was not interested in, pretend I was in love, marry them and steal all of their money. It would also be legal to do that, but immoral. We should not give green cards to people that have short marriages.

Like I said you proved to USCIS you were a legit relationship and they did their assessment based on the evidence you gave them. And we kind of don't give people Green Card to people that have short marriages. That's why we have Removal of Conditions on 2 year green cards. 

 

Next time you find someone make sure you know them more before you marry them. I knew my husband for 2 years before we got married. And if you decide to bring someone to the US again, make sure you do your research on ALL steps of the immigration progress. 

[Crazy Cat 41,891]

10 hours ago, seantruce said:

And our system is ripe for users taking advantage of compassionate people like me.

Maybe she scammed you.  Maybe she didnt.....either way, you are on the hook unless you can prove she entered the marriage with the intent to use you for a green card. . The government didn't create this situation, but government has established measures to protect the taxpayers against this kind of situation.

[seantruce 5]

7 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

What part is confusing?

"How Long Does My Obligation as a Sponsor Continue?

Your obligation to support the immigrants you are sponsoring in this Affidavit of Support will continue until the sponsored immigrant becomes a U.S. citizen, or can be credited with 40 qualifying quarters of work in the United States. Although 40 qualifying quarters of work (credits) generally equates to 10 years of work, in certain cases the work of a spouse or parent adds qualifying quarters. The Social Security Administration can provide information on how to count qualifying quarters (credits) of work. The obligation also ends if you or the sponsored immigrant dies or if the sponsored immigrant ceases to be a lawful permanent resident. Divorce does not end the sponsorship obligation."

Quote is directly from the instruction pdf file for the affidavit of support form found on USCIS.gov

Reading stuff like this in visa journey:

 

In real life, the Affidavit of Support is a non issue. Enforcing it would require the US Government to sue the immigrant's sponsor in court. It is very doubtful that this will happen in any but the most severe circumstances where an immigrant has unlawfully accrued tens of thousand of dollars in federal (not state!) money.

Don't tell anyone though.

[seantruce 5]

33 minutes ago, arken said:

That’s because you weren’t looking for it. You came here and started venting you anger and the blame on the government and treated yourself like a pure crystal as if you have no role in your current mess. You talked about changing the laws just because you made a mistake of signing a thing without reading and bringing someone into the US as a resident. Take the responsibility first and then talk about compassion. 

I am going to take action to see that the system is changed and that short marriages do not result in green cards. Anybody out there in my position, please contact me and let's organize!